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== Overview ==
This page is an attempt to visualize the (murky, contradictory & redundancy-riddled) family tree associated with the '''Cobarde''' gimmick. Originally from [[Ciudad Juárez]], the 4th generation were instead born in [[El Paso]], [[Texas]].
This page is an attempt to visualize the (murky, contradictory & redundancy-riddled) family tree associated with the '''Cobarde''' gimmick. Originally from [[Ciudad Juárez]], the 4th generation were instead born in [[El Paso]], [[Texas]].


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|''1st Generation''
|''1st Generation''
| colspan="7" |[[Dr. X (first)|Dr. X]]
| colspan="8" |[[Dr. X (first)|Dr. X]]
|-style="background: aqua;"
|-style="background: aqua;"
|'''''2nd Generation''
|'''''2nd Generation''
|[[El Cobarde]]
|[[El Cobarde]]
| colspan="5" |[[El Cobarde II]]<br><small>AKA El Impostor</small>
| colspan="6" |[[El Cobarde II]]<br><small>AKA El Impostor</small>
|[[Convoy]]<br><small>AKA Legendario, Cobarde Jr.</small><br>married [[Vicky Carranza]]
|[[Convoy]]<br><small>AKA Legendario, Cobarde Jr.</small><br>married [[Vicky Carranza]]
|-style="background: lime;"
|-style="background: lime;"
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|[[El Hijo del Cobarde]]
|[[El Hijo del Cobarde]]
| colspan="4" |[[Impostor Jr.]]<br><small>AKA El Impostor</small>
| colspan="4" |[[Impostor Jr.]]<br><small>AKA El Impostor</small>
|daughter?
|[[Ricky]]
|[[Ricky]]
|-style="background: pink;"
|-style="background: pink;"
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|[[El Cobarde (2020s)]]<br><small>AKA Impostor Jr., Hijo del Impostor</small>
|[[El Cobarde (2020s)]]<br><small>AKA Impostor Jr., Hijo del Impostor</small>
|[[Legendario Jr.]]<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1592286204438258&set=pb.100009706804921.-2207520000&type=3</ref>
|[[Legendario Jr.]]<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1592286204438258&set=pb.100009706804921.-2207520000&type=3</ref>
|[[Dr. X Jr.]]<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1312001872466694&set=pb.100009706804921.-2207520000&type=3</ref>
|[[Cobarde Jr. (2025)]]<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=697246449922569&set=pb.100089116603122.-2207520000&type=3</ref><br><small>AKA Dr. X Jr.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1312001872466694&set=pb.100009706804921.-2207520000&type=3</ref></small>
|[[Midas]]<ref>https://www.theprospectordaily.com/2023/04/18/at-the-heart-of-the-ring-lucha-libre/</ref><br><small>AKA Minus</small>
|[[El Dragón (Juarez)]]
|[[El Dragón (Juarez)]]
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|}
|}
== Other Members ==
A fourth son of Impostor Jr. became a referee, going by the name "Chucky".<ref>https://www.facebook.com/referee.chucky</ref>


Vicky Carranza's father is [[Miguel Carranza]], who wrestled as Carraza I.
Vicky Carranza's father is [[Miguel Carranza]], who wrestled as Carraza I.


Another son of Impostor Jr. became a referee, going by the name "Chucky".<ref>https://www.facebook.com/referee.chucky</ref>
Other possible members - due to their inclusion in family photos - include [https://www.instagram.com/official_kaoz_/ Kaoz],<ref>https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=30136&name=Kaoz</ref> [https://www.facebook.com/mrflash.luchador Aviatico],<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=136777922290877&set=pb.100078760099682.-2207520000&type=3</ref> Avatar,<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1810372202357933&set=gm.876925885841576</ref> and Superflash.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107160305252639&set=pb.100078760099682.-2207520000&type=3</ref>
 
== Notes ==
The family promotes their own lucha shows in El Paso under the banner "[https://www.facebook.com/Delgadopromotios/ Delgado Promotions]".
 
[[El Cobarde (2020s)|the modern Cobarde]] & [[El Dragón (Juarez)|El Dragon]] often team as '''Guerreros Del Aire.'''
 
According to an article interview, [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100078760099682 Midas] was born April 2003, and debuted in late 2021. He formed the stable “Inglorious Bastards” with [[Marty Snow]] and [[Nolan Knight]] on [[February 21]], [[2022]], with [[Cosmo Orion]] joining later. He's a middle brother age-wise, and tends to feud against the rest of the family on their shows. As emphasized by his decision to take an original name over a lineal one.
 
== Non-Wrestlers ==
* [https://www.facebook.com/jose.luis.marquez.719253 Jose Luis Marquez] - father of El Dragon.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/jose.luis.marquez.719253/videos/559098942845711/</ref>
 
* [https://www.facebook.com/adriana.delgado.969 Adriana Delgado] - possible wife of Impostor Jr.?
 
* [https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=9998423420242517&set=a.103712916380333 Manuel Delgado] - teen son of Impostor Jr. & Adriana?
 
* [https://www.facebook.com/constancio.guzman.1 Constancio Guzman] - godfather of Manuel.
 
* [https://www.facebook.com/diego.delagdo Diego Delgado] - ?


== Mystery members ==
== Sus ==
Dan Madigan's 2007 book "Mondo Lucha A Go-Go" mentions a "[[El Hijo del Cobarde Jr.]]", and emphatically states that he is the son of the original Cobarde ("not II"). It is ''possible'' that this was in error, as LuchaWiki itself said as such on El Cobarde's page at the time of his research, only to remove the "Jr." as the first edit after its release<ref>https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=El_Cobarde&oldid=41265</ref> and change the relationship to "nephew" some years later.<ref>https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=El_Cobarde&oldid=83645</ref> At any rate, Hijo del Cobarde is probably indeed Cobarde II's son, as his real name (likely sourced from his mask loss) is legitimately a "Jr." of Cobarde II's.
Dan Madigan's 2007 book "Mondo Lucha A Go-Go" mentions a "[[El Hijo del Cobarde Jr.]]", and emphatically states that he is the son of the original Cobarde ("not II"). It is ''possible'' that this was in error, as LuchaWiki itself said as such on El Cobarde's page at the time of his research, only to remove the "Jr." as the first edit after its release<ref>https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=El_Cobarde&oldid=41265</ref> and change the relationship to "nephew" some years later.<ref>https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=El_Cobarde&oldid=83645</ref> At any rate, Hijo del Cobarde is probably indeed Cobarde II's son, as his real name (likely sourced from his mask loss) is legitimately a "Jr." of Cobarde II's.


The family's penchant for re-using names has caused much confusion regarding their inter-relationships. Especially for the 2020s Cobarde, who was erroneously assumed to be the son of Cobarde II & thus the same man as his father.<ref>https://thecubsfan.com/cmll/2024/08/05/mjf-defeats-templario-psycho-circus-lose-their-way-into-a-triplemania-main-event/</ref> However, both his Facebook & CMLL's commentary<ref>as of May 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCytouIt5U#t=1h20m28s</ref> are quite clear about his actual position. Likewise; there is conflicting information on whether El Dragon is his brother or cousin.
The family's penchant for re-using names has caused much confusion regarding their inter-relationships. Especially for the 2020s Cobarde, who was erroneously assumed to be the son of Cobarde II & thus the same man as his father.<ref>https://thecubsfan.com/cmll/2024/08/05/mjf-defeats-templario-psycho-circus-lose-their-way-into-a-triplemania-main-event/</ref> However, both his Facebook & CMLL's commentary<ref>as of May 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCytouIt5U#t=1h20m28s</ref> are quite clear about his actual position. There has likewise been conflicting information on whether El Dragon is his brother or cousin.


The original Cobarde's page also lists an "[[El Cobarde Jr. (II)]]" as a third nephew. This is most likely an accidental duplication of El Hijo del Cobarde, who did frequently go by "Cobarde Jr."<ref>https://luchadb.com/events/shows/00002000/00002748.php</ref> (and is literally "El Cobarde II Jr.").
The original Cobarde's page also lists an "[[El Cobarde Jr. (II)]]" as a third nephew. This is most likely an accidental duplication of El Hijo del Cobarde, who did frequently go by "Cobarde Jr."<ref>https://luchadb.com/events/shows/00002000/00002748.php</ref> (and is literally "El Cobarde II Jr.").
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==References ==
==References ==
[[Legendario Jr.]]'s FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/pika.anahi


[[Category:Families]]
[[Category:Families]]

Latest revision as of 20:06, 3 June 2026

Overview

This page is an attempt to visualize the (murky, contradictory & redundancy-riddled) family tree associated with the Cobarde gimmick. Originally from Ciudad Juárez, the 4th generation were instead born in El Paso, Texas.

1st Generation Dr. X
2nd Generation El Cobarde El Cobarde II
AKA El Impostor 		Convoy
AKA Legendario, Cobarde Jr.
married Vicky Carranza
3rd Generation El Hijo del Cobarde Jr.? El Hijo del Cobarde Impostor Jr.
AKA El Impostor 		daughter? Ricky
4th Generation El Cobarde (2020s)
AKA Impostor Jr., Hijo del Impostor 		Legendario Jr.[1] Cobarde Jr. (2025)[2]
AKA Dr. X Jr.[3] 		Midas[4]
AKA Minus 		El Dragón (Juarez)

Other Members

A fourth son of Impostor Jr. became a referee, going by the name "Chucky".[5]

Vicky Carranza's father is Miguel Carranza, who wrestled as Carraza I.

Other possible members - due to their inclusion in family photos - include Kaoz,[6] Aviatico,[7] Avatar,[8] and Superflash.[9]

Notes

The family promotes their own lucha shows in El Paso under the banner "Delgado Promotions".

the modern Cobarde & El Dragon often team as Guerreros Del Aire.

According to an article interview, Midas was born April 2003, and debuted in late 2021. He formed the stable “Inglorious Bastards” with Marty Snow and Nolan Knight on February 21, 2022, with Cosmo Orion joining later. He's a middle brother age-wise, and tends to feud against the rest of the family on their shows. As emphasized by his decision to take an original name over a lineal one.

Non-Wrestlers

Sus

Dan Madigan's 2007 book "Mondo Lucha A Go-Go" mentions a "El Hijo del Cobarde Jr.", and emphatically states that he is the son of the original Cobarde ("not II"). It is possible that this was in error, as LuchaWiki itself said as such on El Cobarde's page at the time of his research, only to remove the "Jr." as the first edit after its release[11] and change the relationship to "nephew" some years later.[12] At any rate, Hijo del Cobarde is probably indeed Cobarde II's son, as his real name (likely sourced from his mask loss) is legitimately a "Jr." of Cobarde II's.

The family's penchant for re-using names has caused much confusion regarding their inter-relationships. Especially for the 2020s Cobarde, who was erroneously assumed to be the son of Cobarde II & thus the same man as his father.[13] However, both his Facebook & CMLL's commentary[14] are quite clear about his actual position. There has likewise been conflicting information on whether El Dragon is his brother or cousin.

The original Cobarde's page also lists an "El Cobarde Jr. (II)" as a third nephew. This is most likely an accidental duplication of El Hijo del Cobarde, who did frequently go by "Cobarde Jr."[15] (and is literally "El Cobarde II Jr.").

Dr. X & his 3 sons
Cobarde II with his sons
Cobarde II with an unmasked Hijo del Cobarde
Dr. X and son
Dr. X masking up a Cobarde
Cobarde II & grandson Hijo del Impostor


ditto
Impostor Jr. & son Hijo del Impostor
family photo
Impostor Jr. & his 4 sons
ditto
Impostor Jr. w/ sons Hijo del Impostor & Dr. X Jr.


w/ Hijo del Impostor & Legendario Jr.
+ El Dragon
Hijo del Impostor, Dr. X Jr. & El Dragon


El Dragon with his mum
w/ Salvador Lutteroth III
80th Anniversary (presumably of Dr. X's debut)


Cobarde II & Legendario Jr.
Cobarde II re-christening Dr. X Jr. as Cobarde Jr. on 30/3/25


Hijo del Cobarde retirement show (feat. a new Cobarde Jr. debut!)


References

Legendario Jr.'s FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/pika.anahi

  1. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1592286204438258&set=pb.100009706804921.-2207520000&type=3
  2. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=697246449922569&set=pb.100089116603122.-2207520000&type=3
  3. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1312001872466694&set=pb.100009706804921.-2207520000&type=3
  4. ↑ https://www.theprospectordaily.com/2023/04/18/at-the-heart-of-the-ring-lucha-libre/
  5. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/referee.chucky
  6. ↑ https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=30136&name=Kaoz
  7. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=136777922290877&set=pb.100078760099682.-2207520000&type=3
  8. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1810372202357933&set=gm.876925885841576
  9. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107160305252639&set=pb.100078760099682.-2207520000&type=3
  10. ↑ https://www.facebook.com/jose.luis.marquez.719253/videos/559098942845711/
  11. ↑ https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=El_Cobarde&oldid=41265
  12. ↑ https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=El_Cobarde&oldid=83645
  13. ↑ https://thecubsfan.com/cmll/2024/08/05/mjf-defeats-templario-psycho-circus-lose-their-way-into-a-triplemania-main-event/
  14. ↑ as of May 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCytouIt5U#t=1h20m28s
  15. ↑ https://luchadb.com/events/shows/00002000/00002748.php
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