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Was he the Pantera del Ring in CMLL all the way back in 1991, who later jumped to AAA before Promo Azteca, or is that a different person? --thecubsfan 19:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah that was him. He's had the gimmick since at least 1990.--Robert 23:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)