https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AEspectro_II_Jr. 2026-08-02T04:57:21Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.44.0 https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122117&oldid=prev 2016-04-07T05:48:19Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:48, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I&#039;m not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I&#039;m not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It also says there that he wrestled as Monje Cavernario and the only page that links to that name is [[Occidente Welterweight Championship|this]] claiming that he fought for the title in 1984. And my Spanish is very poor, but could "38 años como luchador profesional" mean that he started his career 38 years ago and not his age? That would mean he started his career in 1972, so it is possible that it is the same guy (he's from Guadalajara too and the title is defended in Guadalajara). I thing it all makes sense. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:39, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It also says there that he wrestled as Monje Cavernario and the only page that links to that name is [[Occidente Welterweight Championship|this]] claiming that he fought for the title in 1984. And my Spanish is very poor, but could "38 años como luchador profesional" mean that he started his career 38 years ago and not his age? That would mean he started his career in 1972, so it is possible that it is the same guy (he's from Guadalajara too and the title is defended in Guadalajara <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and Monje Cavernario appears in CMLL results from Guadalajara from the 80s</ins>). I thing it all makes sense. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:39, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key luchawiki_db:diff:1.41:old-122113:rev-122117:php=table --> </table>

LuchaBoy619 https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122113&oldid=prev 2016-04-07T05:40:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:40, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I&#039;m not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I&#039;m not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It also says there that he wrestled as Monje Cavernario and the only page that links to that name is [[Occidente Welterweight Championship|this]] claiming that he fought for the title in 1984. And my Spanish is very poor, but could "38 años como luchador profesional" mean that he started his career 38 years ago and not his age? That would mean he started his career in <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">1978</del>, so it is possible that it is the same guy (he's from Guadalajara too and the title is defended in Guadalajara). I thing it all makes sense. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:39, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It also says there that he wrestled as Monje Cavernario and the only page that links to that name is [[Occidente Welterweight Championship|this]] claiming that he fought for the title in 1984. And my Spanish is very poor, but could "38 años como luchador profesional" mean that he started his career 38 years ago and not his age? That would mean he started his career in <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">1972</ins>, so it is possible that it is the same guy (he's from Guadalajara too and the title is defended in Guadalajara). I thing it all makes sense. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:39, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

LuchaBoy619 https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122112&oldid=prev 2016-04-07T05:39:07Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:39, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I&#039;m not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I&#039;m not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It also says there that he wrestled as Monje Cavernario and the only page that links to that name is [[Occidente Welterweight Championship|this]] claiming that he fought for the title in 1984. And my Spanish is very poor, but could "38 años como luchador profesional" mean that he started his career 38 years ago and not his age? That would mean he started his career in 1978, so it is possible that it is the same guy (he's from Guadalajara too and the title is defended in Guadalajara). I thing it all makes sense. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:39, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

LuchaBoy619 https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122111&oldid=prev 2016-04-07T05:33:07Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:33, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Any chance for a pic of the guy in wrestling gear or in a ring?  Pic looks like just a guy who picked up an Espectro mask on the street.--[[User:Flashmagic|Flashmagic]] ([[User talk:Flashmagic|talk]]) 14:15, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Any chance for a pic of the guy in wrestling gear or in a ring?  Pic looks like just a guy who picked up an Espectro mask on the street.--[[User:Flashmagic|Flashmagic]] ([[User talk:Flashmagic|talk]]) 14:15, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Yeah it does, no luck finding much of anything at all on this guy.[[User:MPJ-DK|MPJ-DK]] ([[User talk:MPJ-DK|talk]]) 14:27, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Yeah it does, no luck finding much of anything at all on this guy.[[User:MPJ-DK|MPJ-DK]] ([[User talk:MPJ-DK|talk]]) 14:27, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2010/10/20/ Thecubsfan reported his mask loss. Also, this blog: http://djspectro.blogspot.lt/2010/10/espectro-ii-jr-pierde-su-mascara-en-el.html although I'm not sure how trustworthy it is. --[[User:LuchaBoy619|LuchaBoy619]] ([[User talk:LuchaBoy619|talk]]) 22:33, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key luchawiki_db:diff:1.41:old-122100:rev-122111:php=table --> </table>

LuchaBoy619 https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122100&oldid=prev 2016-04-06T21:27:37Z

<p>doubtful</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:27, 6 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Any chance for a pic of the guy in wrestling gear or in a ring?  Pic looks like just a guy who picked up an Espectro mask on the street.--[[User:Flashmagic|Flashmagic]] ([[User talk:Flashmagic|talk]]) 14:15, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Any chance for a pic of the guy in wrestling gear or in a ring?  Pic looks like just a guy who picked up an Espectro mask on the street.--[[User:Flashmagic|Flashmagic]] ([[User talk:Flashmagic|talk]]) 14:15, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*Yeah it does, no luck finding much of anything at all on this guy.[[User:MPJ-DK|MPJ-DK]] ([[User talk:MPJ-DK|talk]]) 14:27, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key luchawiki_db:diff:1.41:old-122097:rev-122100:php=table --> </table>

MPJ-DK https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122097&oldid=prev 2016-04-06T21:15:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:15, 6 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I have never heard of this guy until I started to research the Espectro gimmicks. Finally a profile that was not already here. [[User:MPJ-DK|MPJ-DK]] ([[User talk:MPJ-DK|talk]]) 14:11, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I have never heard of this guy until I started to research the Espectro gimmicks. Finally a profile that was not already here. [[User:MPJ-DK|MPJ-DK]] ([[User talk:MPJ-DK|talk]]) 14:11, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Any chance for a pic of the guy in wrestling gear or in a ring?  Pic looks like just a guy who picked up an Espectro mask on the street.--[[User:Flashmagic|Flashmagic]] ([[User talk:Flashmagic|talk]]) 14:15, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Flashmagic https://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Espectro_II_Jr.&diff=122096&oldid=prev 2016-04-06T21:11:38Z

<p>Created page with &quot;I have never heard of this guy until I started to research the Espectro gimmicks. Finally a profile that was not already here. ~~~~&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>I have never heard of this guy until I started to research the Espectro gimmicks. Finally a profile that was not already here. [[User:MPJ-DK|MPJ-DK]] ([[User talk:MPJ-DK|talk]]) 14:11, 6 April 2016 (PDT)</div>

MPJ-DK