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Yoshihiro Takayama

2010-01-22T07:04:16Z

El Rudo:

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|image=Takayama.jpg
|name=Yoshihiro Takayama
|realName=Yoshihiro Takayama
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Yoshihiro Takayama
|family=
|maestro=
|birthdate=[[September 19]], [[1966]]- [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]
|debut=[[June 28]], [[1992]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=196cm/6'5"
|weight=125kgs/280lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Dynamite Impact]], [[Everest Suplex]]
|titles=AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (with Takao Omori), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (with Takao Omori), IWGP Heavyweight Championship, IWGP Tag Team Championship (with [[Minoru Suzuki]]), NWF Heavyweight Championship, GHC Heavyweight Championship, GHC Tag Team Championship (with Takao Omori), NWA Intercontinental Tag Team Championship (with Kohei Sato), WAR World Six-Man Tag Team Championship (with Yoji Anjo & Kenichi Yamamoto), AJPW Triple Crown.
|}}

Brought in with [[Minoru Suzuki]] to Mexico by [[Ultimo Dragon]] in May of 2008 for a couple shows. He became the second Wrestler who obtained the three majors championships at Japan: IWGP Heavyweight Championship (NJPW), AJPW Triple Crown (AJPW) and GHC Heavyweight Championship (NOAH) when he defeated [[Great Muta]] to get the AJPW Triple Crown. The firts man to do it was [[Kensuke Sasaki]] defeating [[Takeshi Morishima]] for the GHC Heavyweigth.

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Milano Collection A.T.

2010-01-22T06:43:32Z

El Rudo: /* Biography */

== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milanocollectionat.jpg
|name=Milano Collection A.T.
|realName=Akihito Teuri
|nicknames=Fashion Leader
|nameHistory=Terui (Mexico, debut - ??), Milano Collection A.T. (?? - )
|family=
|maestro=[[Skayde]], [[Ultimo Dragon]]
|birthdate=[[August 27]], [[1976]] - [[Morioka]], [[Iwate]], [[Japan]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[May 13]], [[2000]] - [[Arena Naucalpan]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=6'0"/183 cm
|weight=187 lbs/85 kg
|signatureMoves=[[La Nieblina|Paradise Lock]], [[Chickenwing Armlock With Headscissors|A.T. Lock]], [[Quebrada Con Tornillo|Armani Shoe Exchange]]
|titles=2000 [[Young Dragons Cup]] winner, International Light Heavyweight Champion, [[UWA World Trios Championship]] (2, w/ [[Brother YASSINI]] & [[Masato Yoshino|YOSSINO]], w/ [[Masato Yoshino|YOSSINO]] & [[Shuji Kondo|Condotti Shuji]]), Open the Triangle Gate Champion (w/ [[Anthony W. Mori]] & [[Masato Yoshino|YOSSINO]])
}}

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|03/09/26|hair (1)|Milano Collection AT|[[Tatsuki Fuji|Genki Horiguchi]]|[[Budokan Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]}}
{{aend| (1) Cage match with [[Keni'chiro Arai]], [[SUWA]] and [[Magnum Tokyo|Magnum TOKYO]]}}

== Biography ==

He retired 18th January 2010 from professional Wrestling due an eye injury.

== Gallery ==

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Milano Collection A.T.

2010-01-22T06:42:47Z

El Rudo: /* Biography */

== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milanocollectionat.jpg
|name=Milano Collection A.T.
|realName=Akihito Teuri
|nicknames=Fashion Leader
|nameHistory=Terui (Mexico, debut - ??), Milano Collection A.T. (?? - )
|family=
|maestro=[[Skayde]], [[Ultimo Dragon]]
|birthdate=[[August 27]], [[1976]] - [[Morioka]], [[Iwate]], [[Japan]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[May 13]], [[2000]] - [[Arena Naucalpan]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=6'0"/183 cm
|weight=187 lbs/85 kg
|signatureMoves=[[La Nieblina|Paradise Lock]], [[Chickenwing Armlock With Headscissors|A.T. Lock]], [[Quebrada Con Tornillo|Armani Shoe Exchange]]
|titles=2000 [[Young Dragons Cup]] winner, International Light Heavyweight Champion, [[UWA World Trios Championship]] (2, w/ [[Brother YASSINI]] & [[Masato Yoshino|YOSSINO]], w/ [[Masato Yoshino|YOSSINO]] & [[Shuji Kondo|Condotti Shuji]]), Open the Triangle Gate Champion (w/ [[Anthony W. Mori]] & [[Masato Yoshino|YOSSINO]])
}}

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|03/09/26|hair (1)|Milano Collection AT|[[Tatsuki Fuji|Genki Horiguchi]]|[[Budokan Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]}}
{{aend| (1) Cage match with [[Keni'chiro Arai]], [[SUWA]] and [[Magnum Tokyo|Magnum TOKYO]]}}

== Biography ==

He retired 18th January 2010 from professional Wrestling.

== Gallery ==

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Kamikaze Misawa

2009-11-01T02:15:48Z

El Rudo: /* Notes */

== Profile ==

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Mitsuharu Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto= As Tiger Mask II he commanded his partner Toshiaki Kawada to unmask him [[May 14]]
, [[1990]]
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=[[June 13]], [[2009]]
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]], [[German Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}

== Notes ==

Misawa, possibly the greatest professional wrestler of all time, spent most of his career in Japanese promotions [[AJPW]] and [[NOAH]], which he founded. Misawa's time in Mexico was in CMLL as part of a learning excursion.

Misawa, teaming with fellow AJPA novato [[Samurai Shiro]], started in Mexico from [[March 16]], [[1984]] and was expected to say a year. Misawa was quickly brought back to Japan to redebut on July 31, 1984, as the new Tiger Mask after [[AJPW]] purchased the rights to use the character in wrestling.

During his short stint in CMLL, Misawa challenged [[Satanico]] for the [[NWA World Middleweight Championship]], Misawa's first major championship match.

Misawa passed away in 13th June 2009, during a match, due to injuries suffered taking a backdrop driver from Akitoshi Saito in a match for the GHC Tag Team Championship, his partner was Go Shiozaki.

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Tiger_mask.jpg|caption=as Tiger Mask II}}

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Villano V

2009-03-21T06:12:55Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=V5.JPG
|name=Villano V (Villano Quinto)
|realName=Raymundo Diaz Mendoza
|nicknames=La Pantera Rosa (The Pink Panther)
|nameHistory=Rokambole (debut - 09/83), Villano V (09/83 - )
|family=[[Ray Mendoza]] (father), [[Los Villanos]] (brothers), [[La Infernal]] (sister-in-law)
|maestro=[[Ray Mendoza]], [[Villano I]]
|birthdate=[[March 22]], [[1962]] - [[Mexico City]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=May ?, [[1976]] - [[Arena Naucalpan]] - [[Naucalpan]], [[Mexico State]]
|lostmaskto=[[March 20]], [[2009]] - [[Arena México]], [[Mexico City]] (vs [[Ultimo Guerrero]])
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=220 lbs/100 kg
|signatureMoves=[[La Tapatia]], [[step over armbar]]
|titles=[[Naucalpan Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Kuroneko]] - as Rokambole), [[Naucalpan Welterweight Title]] (as Rokambole), [[Toluca Welterweight Title]], [[Nezahualcoyotl Lightweight Title]], [[Mexico State Lightweight Title]], [[UWA World Trios Titles]] (5, w/ [[Villano I|Villanos I]] & [[Villano IV]] four times, w/ [[Scorpio Jr.]] & [[Shu El Guerrero]]), [[UWA World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Villano III]] & [[Dos Caras]]), [[National Atomicos Titles]] (w/ [[Pierroth Jr.]] & [[Villano III|Villanos III]] & [[Villano IV|IV]]), [[AAA Americas Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Villano III|Villanos III]] & [[Villano IV|IV]]), [[UWA World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Villano IV]]), [[WWA World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Villano IV]]), [[IWRG Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Villano III|Villanos III]] & [[Villano IV|IV]]), [[Arena Aztahuacan Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Villano IV]]), [[WWA World Trios Championship]] (w/[[Villano IV]], [[Villano III]])
}}

 

== Biography ==

Villano V is the last of the five Villano brothers. Villano V has had a long career in the [[UWA]], [[AAA]] and [[CMLL]], and one was one of many luchadors who spent many years in [[WCW]]. [[Villano III]], [[Villano IV|IV]] and V are currently rudos in CMLL, and Villano V is feuding with [[Blue Panther]].

Despite the number, Villano V is not the youngest of the Villanos brothers. Rey Mendoza mandated that his sons finishing studying for a career before they started wrestling. Villano IV, the youngest member of the group, completed his studies first, and so earned his number first.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villano_V

{{Villanos}}

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[Feburary 12|02/12]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Perro Sosa]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[March 1|03/01]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Lucio Risas]]|[[Acapulco]], [[Guerrero]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[March 27|03/27]]|mask|Rokambole|[[Bronco (UWA)|Bronco]]|[[Toluca]], [[Estado de Mexico]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/10/??|mask|Rokambole|[[Cuervo Blanco]]|[[Deportivo Moctezuma]] - [[Mexico State]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[December 17|12/17]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Perro Sosa]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[May 12|05/12]]|mask|Rokambole|[[Super Libre]]|[[Puebla]], [[Puebla]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[June 13|06/13]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Comanche]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Azcasgary]]|[[Tuxtla Gutierrez]], [[Chiapas]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[December 14|12/14]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Caballero Negro]]|[[Jalapa]], [[Veracruz]]}}
{{aline|[[1980|80]]/[[January 6|01/06]]|mask|Rokambole|[[Socio]]|[[Acapulco]], [[Guerrero]]}}
{{aline|[[1980|80]]/05/¿?|hair|Rokambole|[[Rambo|Jose Luis Mendieta]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1980|80]]/06/¿?|hair|Rokambole|[[Castorcito]]|[[Estado de Mexico]]}}
{{aline|[[1983|83]]/[[March 20|03/20]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Zandokan|Huichol Tapatío]]|[[Querétaro]], [[Querétaro]]}}
{{aline|[[1983|83]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|hair|[[Villano V|Rokambole]]|[[Guerrero Negro]]|[[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1988|88]]/[[October 21|10/21]]|masks|[[Villano I|Los Villanos I]], [[Villano IV|IV]] & V|[[Los Brazos]] ([[Brazo de Oro|Oro]], [[Brazo de Plata|Plata]], [[El Brazo|Brazo]])|[[Plaza de Toros Monumental]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo Leon]]}}
{{aline|[[1991|91]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|masks|[[Villano I|Los Villanos I]], [[Villano IV|IV]] & V|[[Mercenarios Americanos]] ([[Tim Patterson]], [[Bill Anderson]] & [[Louie Spicolli]])|[[Auditorio de Tijuana]] - [[Tijuana]], [[Baja California]]}}
{{aline|[[2008|08]]/09/19|mask|Villano V|[[Blue Panther]]|[[Arena Mexico]] - Mexico City}}
{{aline|09/03/20|mask|[[Último Guerrero]]|Villano V|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aend|}}

== Gallery ==


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|caption=as Rokambole
}}
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|name=Villanov.JPG
|caption=
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{{Gallery|
|name=Villano51.jpg
|caption=
}}
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|name=Villano54mg.jpg
|caption=
}}
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|name=villano5.jpg
|caption=
}}
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|name=05_Villano_V.jpg
|caption=
}}

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[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers]]

Villano V

2009-03-21T06:12:38Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=V5.JPG
|name=Villano V (Villano Quinto)
|realName=Raymundo Diaz Mendoza
|nicknames=La Pantera Rosa (The Pink Panther)
|nameHistory=Rokambole (debut - 09/83), Villano V (09/83 - )
|family=[[Ray Mendoza]] (father), [[Los Villanos]] (brothers), [[La Infernal]] (sister-in-law)
|maestro=[[Ray Mendoza]], [[Villano I]]
|birthdate=[[March 22]], [[1962]] - [[Mexico City]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=May ?, [[1976]] - [[Arena Naucalpan]] - [[Naucalpan]], [[Mexico State]]
|lostmaskto=[[March 20]], [[2009]] - [[Arena México]], [[Mexico City]] (vs/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]])
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=220 lbs/100 kg
|signatureMoves=[[La Tapatia]], [[step over armbar]]
|titles=[[Naucalpan Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Kuroneko]] - as Rokambole), [[Naucalpan Welterweight Title]] (as Rokambole), [[Toluca Welterweight Title]], [[Nezahualcoyotl Lightweight Title]], [[Mexico State Lightweight Title]], [[UWA World Trios Titles]] (5, w/ [[Villano I|Villanos I]] & [[Villano IV]] four times, w/ [[Scorpio Jr.]] & [[Shu El Guerrero]]), [[UWA World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Villano III]] & [[Dos Caras]]), [[National Atomicos Titles]] (w/ [[Pierroth Jr.]] & [[Villano III|Villanos III]] & [[Villano IV|IV]]), [[AAA Americas Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Villano III|Villanos III]] & [[Villano IV|IV]]), [[UWA World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Villano IV]]), [[WWA World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Villano IV]]), [[IWRG Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Villano III|Villanos III]] & [[Villano IV|IV]]), [[Arena Aztahuacan Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Villano IV]]), [[WWA World Trios Championship]] (w/[[Villano IV]], [[Villano III]])
}}

 

== Biography ==

Villano V is the last of the five Villano brothers. Villano V has had a long career in the [[UWA]], [[AAA]] and [[CMLL]], and one was one of many luchadors who spent many years in [[WCW]]. [[Villano III]], [[Villano IV|IV]] and V are currently rudos in CMLL, and Villano V is feuding with [[Blue Panther]].

Despite the number, Villano V is not the youngest of the Villanos brothers. Rey Mendoza mandated that his sons finishing studying for a career before they started wrestling. Villano IV, the youngest member of the group, completed his studies first, and so earned his number first.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villano_V

{{Villanos}}

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[Feburary 12|02/12]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Perro Sosa]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[March 1|03/01]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Lucio Risas]]|[[Acapulco]], [[Guerrero]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[March 27|03/27]]|mask|Rokambole|[[Bronco (UWA)|Bronco]]|[[Toluca]], [[Estado de Mexico]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/10/??|mask|Rokambole|[[Cuervo Blanco]]|[[Deportivo Moctezuma]] - [[Mexico State]]}}
{{aline|[[1977|77]]/[[December 17|12/17]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Perro Sosa]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[May 12|05/12]]|mask|Rokambole|[[Super Libre]]|[[Puebla]], [[Puebla]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[June 13|06/13]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Comanche]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Azcasgary]]|[[Tuxtla Gutierrez]], [[Chiapas]]}}
{{aline|[[1978|78]]/[[December 14|12/14]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Caballero Negro]]|[[Jalapa]], [[Veracruz]]}}
{{aline|[[1980|80]]/[[January 6|01/06]]|mask|Rokambole|[[Socio]]|[[Acapulco]], [[Guerrero]]}}
{{aline|[[1980|80]]/05/¿?|hair|Rokambole|[[Rambo|Jose Luis Mendieta]]|[[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1980|80]]/06/¿?|hair|Rokambole|[[Castorcito]]|[[Estado de Mexico]]}}
{{aline|[[1983|83]]/[[March 20|03/20]]|hair|Rokambole|[[Zandokan|Huichol Tapatío]]|[[Querétaro]], [[Querétaro]]}}
{{aline|[[1983|83]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|hair|[[Villano V|Rokambole]]|[[Guerrero Negro]]|[[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1988|88]]/[[October 21|10/21]]|masks|[[Villano I|Los Villanos I]], [[Villano IV|IV]] & V|[[Los Brazos]] ([[Brazo de Oro|Oro]], [[Brazo de Plata|Plata]], [[El Brazo|Brazo]])|[[Plaza de Toros Monumental]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo Leon]]}}
{{aline|[[1991|91]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|masks|[[Villano I|Los Villanos I]], [[Villano IV|IV]] & V|[[Mercenarios Americanos]] ([[Tim Patterson]], [[Bill Anderson]] & [[Louie Spicolli]])|[[Auditorio de Tijuana]] - [[Tijuana]], [[Baja California]]}}
{{aline|[[2008|08]]/09/19|mask|Villano V|[[Blue Panther]]|[[Arena Mexico]] - Mexico City}}
{{aline|09/03/20|mask|[[Último Guerrero]]|Villano V|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aend|}}

== Gallery ==


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|caption=as Rokambole
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|name=Villanov.JPG
|caption=
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|name=Villano51.jpg
|caption=
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|name=Villano54mg.jpg
|caption=
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|caption=
}}
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|caption=
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[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers]]

Yoshihiro Takayama

2009-03-16T23:37:14Z

El Rudo:

Marufuji

2009-03-16T23:34:17Z

El Rudo: Marufuji moved to Naomichi Marufuji over redirect: Currently uses this name

#REDIRECT [[Naomichi Marufuji]]

Naomichi Marufuji

2009-03-16T23:34:17Z

El Rudo: Marufuji moved to Naomichi Marufuji over redirect: Currently uses this name

{{bioFields|
|image=Marufuji.jpg
|name=Marufuji
|realName=Naomichi Marufuji
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Naomichi Marufuji
|family=
|maestro=[[All Japan Dojo]]
|birthdate=[[September 26]], [[1979]]
|debut=[[August 28]], [[1998]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'9"/176cm
|weight=185lbs/84kgs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Shiranui]], [[Pole Shift]], [[Avalanche-Style Shiranui]], [[Spanish Fly|Avalanche-Style Reverse Shiranui]]
|titles=Super J Cup winner, GHC Heavyweight Championship, GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship, GHC Tag Team Championship (2) (1 w/ [[Minoru Suzuki]] and 1 w/ [[Takashi Sugiura]]), GHC Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship (1 w/ [[KENTA]]), GHC Openweight Hardcore Championship, WEW Tag Team Championship (1 w/ [[Tamon Honda]])

|}}
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Jushin Liger

2009-03-16T23:31:26Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

== Profile ==

{{bioFields||image=Jushinliger.jpg
|name=Jushin Liger
|realName=Keiichi Yamada
|nicknames=Thunder
|nameHistory=Keiichi Yamada (debut - 04/89), Flying Fuji Yamada (UK, 09/86 - 08/87), Jushin "Thunder" Liger (04/89 - ), Lyger (Mexico, 89 - ), Masked CTU-L
|family=none
|maestro=[[Kotetsu Yamamoto]]
|birthdate=[[November 30]], [[1964]] - [[Hiroshima]], [[Hiroshima]], [[Japan]]
|debut=[[March 3]], [[1984]] - [[Tokyo Korakuen Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]
|height=5'7"/170 cm
|weight=209 lbs/95 kg
|lostmaskto=
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Sitdown Powerbomb|Liger Bomb]], [[Palm Thrust|Shotei]], [[Fisherman Buster]], [[Brainbuster]], [[Top Rope Brainbuster]], [[Shoting Star Press]]
|titles=[[GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship]], [[IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship]] (11), [[WCW World Light Heavyweight Championship]], [[British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Championship]] (2), [[WAR International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], [[NWA World Welterweight Championship]], [[WWF World Light Heavyweight Championship]], [[UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]], [[WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]], [[WAR International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], [[WAR International Junior Tag Team Championship]] (w/ [[El Samurai]]), [[IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship]] (3) (2 w/ [[Great Sasuke]], 1 w/ [[El Samurai]], [[Open The Dream Gate Title]]
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|91/07/04|mask|[[Jushin Liger]]|[[Chris Benoit|Pegasus Kid]]|[[Fukuoka]], [[Japan]]}}
{{aline|94/01/04|mask|[[Jushin Liger]]|[[Koji Kanemoto|Tiger Mask III]]|[[Japan]]}}
{{aend|}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Jushin LigerMMA.jpg|caption=In his MMA style mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Keiichi Yamada.jpg|caption=Unmasked as Keiichi Yamada}}
{{Gallery|name=55.jpg |caption=w/ [[Tinieblas Jr.]] & [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]}}

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[[Category:Current NJPW wrestlers]]
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[[Category:TNA wrestlers]]

Hayabusa

2008-11-21T00:55:08Z

El Rudo:

== Profile ==

{{bioFields|
|image=Hayabusa.jpg
|name=Hayabusa (Peregrine Falcon)
|realName=Eiji Ezaki
|nicknames=The Phoenix, The Falcon, The Flying Assassin
|nameHistory=Eiji Ezaki (debut - 10/93), Hayabusa (10/93 - retirement), H (08/99 - 07/00)
|family=
|maestro=[[Tarzan Goto]], [[Rey Misterio Sr.]]
|lostmaskto=
|obituarydate
|birthdate=[[November 29, 1968]] - [[Kumamoto]], [[Yatsushiro]], [[Japan]]
|debut=[[May 5, 1991]] - [[Nagoya International Center]] - [[Nagoya]], [[Japan]]
|height=6'0"/183 cm
|weight=233 lbs/106 kg
|signatureMoves=Firebird Splash ([[450 Splash]]), Phoenix Splash ([[Backflip 450 Splash]]), [[Shooting Star Press]], [[Falcon Arrow]]
|titles=PCWF Florida Heavyweight Championship, FMW Brass Knuckles Heavyweight Championship, FMW Six-Man Street Fight Championship (2) (w/ Masato Tanaka & Koji Kakagawa, w/ Masato Tanaka & Hisakatsu Oya), FMW Brass Knuckles Tag Team Championship (2) (w/ Masato Tanaka, w/ Daisuke Ikeda), FMW Brass Knuckles Heayweight Championship (3), FMW Independent Heavyweight Championship, All Asian Tag Team Championship (w/ Jinsei Shinzaki), WEW Tag Team Championship (2) (w/ [[Mr. Gannosuke]], w/ [[Tetsuhiro Kuroda]]), WEW Six-Man Tag Team Championship (2) (w/ [[Tetsuhiro Kuroda]] & [[Hisakatsu Oya]], w/ [[Tetsuhiro Kuroda]] & [[GOEMON]]), WEW World Heavyweight Championship (2)
|}}

== Biography ==

Hayabusa finished his carrer at the promotion FMW in 2001, trying to do a moonsault fall to the ring and break his neck, after went to hospital and wake-up later one year, since then, he can't walk, currently he sings.

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|97/04/29|hair|[[Hayabusa]]|[[Mr. Gannosuke]]|Yokohama Arena - Yokohama, Japan}}
{{aend|}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=HayabusaNew.JPG|caption=The classic look}}
{{Gallery|name=Ezaki.JPG|caption=Unmasked as Eiji Ezaki}}
{{Gallery|name=Hwrestler.JPG|caption=H}}

Bio at http://fmwwrestling.us/Hayabio.html

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[[Category:ECW wrestlers]]

Hayabusa

2008-11-21T00:54:42Z

El Rudo:

== Profile ==

{{bioFields|
|image=Hayabusa.jpg
|name=Hayabusa (Peregrine Falcon)
|realName=Eiji Ezaki
|nicknames=The Phoenix, The Falcon, The Flying Assassin
|nameHistory=Eiji Ezaki (debut - 10/93), Hayabusa (10/93 - retirement), H (08/99 - 07/00)
|family=
|maestro=[[Tarzan Goto]], [[Rey Misterio Sr.]]
|lostmaskto=
|obituarydate
|birthdate=[[November 29, 1968]] - [[Kumamoto]], [[Yatsushiro]], [[Japan]]
|debut=[[May 5, 1991]] - [[Nagoya International Center]] - [[Nagoya]], [[Japan]]
|height=6'0"/183 cm
|weight=233 lbs/106 kg
|signatureMoves=Firebird Splash ([[450 Splash]]), Phoenix Splash ([[Backflip 450 Splash]]), [[Shooting Star Press]], [[Falcon Arrow]]
|titles=PCWF Florida Heavyweight Championship, FMW Brass Knuckles Heavyweight Championship, FMW Six-Man Street Fight Championship (2) (w/ Masato Tanaka & Koji Kakagawa, w/ Masato Tanaka & Hisakatsu Oya), FMW Brass Knuckles Tag Team Championship (2) (w/ Masato Tanaka, w/ Daisuke Ikeda), FMW Brass Knuckles Heayweight Championship (3), FMW Independent Heavyweight Championship, All Asian Tag Team Championship (w/ Jinsei Shinzaki), WEW Tag Team Championship (2) (w/ [[Mr. Gannosuke]], w/ [[Tetsuhiro Kuroda]]), WEW Six-Man Tag Team Championship (2) (w/ [[Tetsuhiro Kuroda]] & [[Hisakatsu Oya]], w/ [[Tetsuhiro Kuroda]] & [[GOEMON]]), WEW World Heavyweight Championship (2)
|}}

== Biography ==

Hayabusa finished his carrer at the promotion FMW in 2001, trying to do a moonsault fall to the ring and break his neck, after went to hospital and wake-up later one year, since then, he can[t walk, currently he sings.

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|97/04/29|hair|[[Hayabusa]]|[[Mr. Gannosuke]]|Yokohama Arena - Yokohama, Japan}}
{{aend|}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=HayabusaNew.JPG|caption=The classic look}}
{{Gallery|name=Ezaki.JPG|caption=Unmasked as Eiji Ezaki}}
{{Gallery|name=Hwrestler.JPG|caption=H}}

Bio at http://fmwwrestling.us/Hayabio.html

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category: Japanese wrestlers]]
[[Category:ECW wrestlers]]

Super Delfin

2008-11-21T00:49:23Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|name=Super Delfin|image=superdelfin.jpg
|realName=Hiroto Wakita
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Monkey Magic Wakita, Momotaro(in Mexico), Super Delfin
|family=
|maestro=[[Wally Yamaguchi]]
|birthdate=[[September 22]], [[1967]] - [[Izumi]], [[Osaka]], [[Japan]]
|debut=[[March 19]], [[1989]] vs. [[Gedo|Bulldog KT]] - [[Amsterdam]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'9"/175 cm
|weight=209 lbs/95 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Delfin Clutch]], [[Tornado DDT]], Osaka Stunner ([[Osaka Street Cutter]]), Osaka Rinkai Uppercut ([[Shotei]])
|titles=uncredited [[CMLL World Welterweight Championship]] (2), [[UWA World Welterweight Championship]], [[Universal/FULL UWF Super Welterweight Championship]] (6), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Championship]], Osaka Pro-Wrestling Championship (4), [[NWA World Welterweight Championship]], [[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]]
|}}
 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|93/03/12|mask|[[Super Delfin]]|[[Rocky Santana|Tortuguillo Ninja]]|[[Korakuen Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]}}
{{aline|93/03/13|mask|[[Super Delfin]]|[[Black Man]]|[[Korakuen Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]}}
{{aline|93/10/12|mask|[[Super Delfin]]|[[Dick Togo|SATO]]| Unknown, [[Japan]]}}
{{aline|94/03/04|hair|[[Super Delfin]]|[[Dick Togo|SATO]]|[[Osaka Rinkan Sports Center]] - [[Osaka]], [[Japan]]}}
{{aend|}}

== Sources ==
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Delfin wikipedia]
* [http://blog.livedoor.jp/delfin1/ Livedoor Blog]

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=MMWakita.jpg|caption=as Monkey Magic Wakita}}
{{Gallery|name=Momotaro.jpg|caption=as Momotaro}}
{{Gallery|name=nwawelter_superdelfin.jpg|caption=as [[NWA World Welterweight Championship|NWA Welter Champ]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Nwainter-jr. delfin.jpg|caption=as [[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship|NWA International Jr. Champ]]}}

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]

Tiger Mask

2008-11-21T00:35:41Z

El Rudo:

== Profile ==

{{bioFields|
|image=Satoru sayama.jpg
|name=Tiger Mask
|realName=Satoru Sayama
|nicknames=El Tigre Enmascarado
|nameHistory=Satoru Sayama (debut - 81), Sammy Lee (England, 80), Tiger Mask (04/81 - 08/83), Tigre Enmascarado (Mexico, 11/82 - 06/83, 2005-), The Tiger (UWF, 07/84), Super Tiger (UWF, 08/84 - 09/85), Satoru Sayama (94 - ), Original Tiger Mask (94 - ), Tiger King (97 - ), The First Tiger Mask
|family=
|maestro=[[New Japan Dojo]]
|birthdate=[[November 27]], [[1957]] - [[Shimonoseki]], [[Yamaguchi]], [[Japan]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[May 28]], [[1976]] - [[Korakuen Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'8"/176 cm
|weight=212 lbs/96 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Tiger Spin]] (headlock to hammerlock to drop toe hold), [[Moonsault Press]], [[Space Flying Tiger Drop]], High Angle [[German Suplex]], [[Chickenwing Facelock]], [[Spin Kick]], [[Tiger Flip]]
|titles=[[NWA World Middleweight Title]], [[WWF World Junior Heavyweight Title]] (3), [[NWA World Junior Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[TWA Tag Team Titles]] (w/ Yoji Anjo), [[British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Championship]] (2)
}}{{WONHOF}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1979|79]]/[[June 15|06/15]]|hair|Satoru Sayama|[[Alfonso Dantés]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|81/10/08|mask|[[Tiger Mask]]|[[Bobby Lee|Masked Hurricane]]|Sumo Hall - Tokyo, Japan}}
{{aend|}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Nwamw sayama.jpg|caption=[[NWA World Middleweight Championship|NWA Middleweight Champ]], as Satoru Sayama}}
{{Gallery|name=Satoru Sayama.jpg|caption=unmasked as Sayama}}
{{Gallery|name=tigermask.jpg|caption=Holding the WWF Junior Heavyweight Championship}}

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]

Kamikaze Misawa

2008-11-21T00:34:52Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Mitsuharu Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II, Mitsuharu Misawa (Currently)
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto= As Tiger Mask II he commanded his partner Toshiaki Kawada to unmask him [[May 14]]
, [[1990]]
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]], [[German Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category: Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

Kamikaze Misawa

2008-11-21T00:34:38Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Mitsuharu Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II, Mitsuharu Misawa (Currently)
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto= As Tiger Mask II he commanded his partner Toshiaki Kawada to unmask him [[May 14]]
, [[1990]]
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]],[[German Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category: Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

Kamikaze Misawa

2008-11-21T00:33:06Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Mitsuharu Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II, Mitsuharu Misawa (Currently)
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto= As Tiger Mask II he commanded his partner Toshiaki Kawada to unmask him [[May 14]]
, [[1990]]
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category: Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

The Great Muta

2008-11-21T00:29:20Z

El Rudo:

== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=MutohEntrance.JPG
|name=Keiji Mutoh
|realName=
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Keiji Mutoh (debut-present), The Great Muta (debut-present), Kokushi-Muso, White Ninja, Super Ninja, Super Black Ninja, Black Ninja
|maestro=Hiro Matsuda in the New Japan Dojo
|birthdate= December 23, 1962
|obituarydate=
|debut=October 5, 1984 vs Masahiro Chono
|lostmaskto=
|height=6' 2"/188 cm
|weight=253 lbs/115 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Moonsault]], [[Shining Wizard]], [[Flashing Elbow]], [[Dragon Screw Leg Whip]], [[Enzu Shining Wizard]], [[Poison Mist]], [[Figure-Four Leg Lock]], Green Fire Spit
|titles=IWGP Heavyweight Title (3), NWA Heavyweight Title, Triple Crown (2), NWA Television Title, WCW Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Vampiro]]), IWGP Tag Team Title (6, w/ Shiro Koshinaka, w/Masahiro Chono (2), w/Hiroshi Hase (2), w/Taiyo Kea)
}}
{{WONHOF}}

== Biography ==

A detailed bio is available on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiji_Mutoh wikipedia]

Other sites include
* http://www.greatmuta.net
* http://www.geocities.com/jpuroresu

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|
|name=Oldmutoh.jpg
|caption= Early Keiji Mutoh
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=T16.jpg
|caption= The Great Muta NJPW Style(mid 90's)
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=Mutoh.jpg
|caption= As Keiji Mutoh(2000's)
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=Mutoh1.jpg
|caption= Mutoh with Hair
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=MutaCollage.jpg
|caption= A Collage featuring the many faces of the Great Muta
}}

 

{{Gallery|
|name=Muta2.jpg
|caption= Promo shot of Muta as the AJPW Triple Crown Champion
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=Muta3.jpg
|caption= Violent Muta
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=MutaCollage2.jpg
|caption= Yet another collage featuring the many faces of the Great Muta
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=Muta6Crown.jpg
|caption= Mutoh as the AJPW Triple Crown Champion, AJPW Double Cup Tag Team Champion and the IWGP World Tag Team Champion
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=MutohRumble.jpg
|caption= Mutoh with the participants in the Mutoh Rumble
}}

 

{{Gallery|
|name=Muta Chono.JPG
|caption= Great Muta vs. Masahiro Chono from NJPW/WCW Supershow III
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=MutohDragonBlue.jpg
|caption= Keiji Mutoh in the movie, Dragon Blue
}}

{{Gallery|
|name=Blog143pd.jpg
|caption= Great Muta in CMLL
}}

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current AJPW wrestlers]]
[[Category:TNA wrestlers]][[Category:WCW Nitro wrestlers]]

Naomichi Marufuji

2008-11-21T00:28:08Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Marufuji.jpg
|name=Marufuji
|realName=Naomichi Marufuji
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Naomichi Marufuji
|family=
|maestro=[[All Japan Dojo]]
|birthdate=[[September 26]], [[1979]]
|debut=[[August 28]], [[1998]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'9"/176cm
|weight=185lbs/84kgs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Shiranui]], [[Super Kick]],[[Avalanche Shiranui]]
|titles=Super J Cup winner, GHC Heavyweight Championship, GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship, GHC Tag Team Championship (2) (1 w/ [[Minoru Suzuki]] and 1 w/ [[Takashi Sugiura]]), GHC Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship (1 w/ [[KENTA]]), GHC Openweight Hardcore Championship, WEW Tag Team Championship (1 w/ [[Tamon Honda]])

|}}
[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

Super Dragon

2008-11-21T00:24:12Z

El Rudo:

{{shortBio|
|image=SuperDragon.jpg
|name=Super Dragon
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Super Dragon
|family=[[TARO]]
|maestro=[[Martin Marin]]
|birthdate=? - [[Orange County]], [[California]]
|debut=[[1996]]
|height=6'0"/183 cm
|weight=200 lbs/91 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Psycho Driver]], [[Curb Stomp]], [[UFO]]
|titles=[[APW Worldwide Internet Championship]] (2), [[CZW World Heavyweight Championship]], [[PWG Championship]], [[PWG World Tag Team Championship]] (2) (w/ [[Davey Richards]], w/ [[Excalibur]]), [[RPW Junior Heavyweight Championship]] (2), [[RPW Mexican Lucha Libre Heavyweight Championship]]
|}}

 
== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|02/10/23|mask|[[Super Dragon]]|[[Shogun]]|California, USA}}
{{aline|02/12/06|mask|[[Super Dragon]]|[[Jardi Frantz|Super Dragon II]]|California, USA}}
{{aline|03/11/29|mask|[[Super Dragon]]|[[TARO|Ultra Taro Jr.]]|California, USA}}
{{aend|}}
{{Stub}}

== Sources ==
*[http://www.super-dragon.com www.super-dragon.com]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Dragon Wikipedia]
*[http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=00001045 Cagematch]

== Gallery ==


{{Gallery|
|name=superdragon.gif
|caption=Earlier Picture of Super Dragon
}}

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category:United States wrestlers]]

Atlantis

2008-11-06T04:20:12Z

El Rudo: /* Notable Matches */

{{Status}}
== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[June 12]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/177 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (4, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]], W/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Negro Casas]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask([[MATCH OF THE YEAR]]).}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 11|07/11]]/[[2008|08]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Blue Panther]] in his 25th anniversary.}}
{{SimpleMatchEnd}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

{{Gallery|name=Atlantis01.jpg||caption=1983}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis02.jpg||caption=circa 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis.jpg|caption=circa 1992}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis03.jpg|caption=100px}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_-_nwa_middle.jpg||caption=w/[[NWA World Middleweight Championship|NWA Middlweight]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis06.jpg|caption=2005}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_diabolo_velasco.jpg|caption=Trophy [[Diablo Velasco]], GDL 2007}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Cmlltag atlantis lizmark.jpg|caption=[[MEX TAG|Mexican Tag Team Champion]], with [[Angel Azteca]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis6.JPG|caption=With collection of captured masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Sin20tC3ADtulo100.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=ATLANTIS2.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantisrudazo.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=AtlantisHLL.jpg|caption=Illustration by El Poderoso}}
{{Gallery|name=59.jpg|caption=La Atlantida vs [[La Sombra]]}}
 

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers]]

{{NWATitleBox}}

Mil Máscaras

2008-09-23T03:10:17Z

El Rudo:

__NOTOC__== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milmascaras.jpg
|name=Mil Máscaras
|nicknames=The Man of 1,000 masks, Mr. Personalidad (Mr. Personality)
|nameHistory=Mil Máscaras (07/65 - )
|family=[[Dos Caras]] and [[Sicodelico]] (brothers), [[Dos Caras Jr.]] and [[Sicodelico Jr.]] (nephews)
|maestro=[["El Turco" José Hérmes]], [[Diablo Velasco]]
|birthdate=[[July 15]], [[1942]] - [[San Luis Potosí]], [[San Luis Potosí]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[July 16]], [[1965]] - [[Arena México]], [[D.F.]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'11"/180 cms
|weight=231 lbs/105 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Plancha]], [[Plancha suicida]], [[Flying double chest chop]], [[Bearhug]]
|titles=[[National Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), Georgia: [[IWA World Heavyweight Title]], Los Angeles: Continental Title, NWA Americas Heavyweight Title (2), [[NWA Americas Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[Alfonso Dantes]], w/ [[Ray Mendoza]]), Dallas: World Class American Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), World Class Texas Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), WCWA World Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jeff Jarrett]]), Guatemala: [[ALLL World Heavyweight Title]], Japan: PWF United States Heavyweight Title, [[WWA World Heavyweight Title]]
}}{{WONHOF}}

== Biography ==
Usually called ''La Leyenda Viviente''(the living legend), Mil was born in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Some bios list his birth year 1938, 1941 or 1942 or even 1944, but the most common date is 1942.

The character of Mil Mascaras was announced before his debut. The gimmick is a creation of "El Rey Midas de la Lucha Libre", [[Valente Perez]], and in fact, the first appearances of Mil Mascaras were not by the current (and long time) man under the mask. Valente came up with the idea of of Mil wearing a different mask for each presentation, and this has sometime expanded to him wearing two masks for matches, throwing one to the crowd.

Mil made his debut as Ricardo Duran, and was trained by [[Diablo Velasco]]. He was the first Mexican and the first masked man who appeared in the Madison Square Garden, and he's famous in Japan.

One of Mil's first feud matches was against [[Benny Galant]], who Mil beat for his hair. Mil has had notables feuds [[Canek]], [[Gran Markus Jr.]] and [[El Halcón]]. Mil's popularity has also increased due to his movies.

He's still wrestling today.

===Filmography===
#[[Mil Máscaras (1966)]], 1st appearance and origin of Mil Mascaras (the only B&W film in the series)
#[[Los Canallas (1966)]] (The Scoundrels aka The Swine), co-stars Regina Torne
#[[Enigma de Muerte (1968)]] (Enigma of Death), with John Carradine
#[[Las Vampiras (1968)]] (The Vampire Girls), with John Carradine
#[[Los Campeones Justicieros (1970)]] (The Champions of Justice), with [[Blue Demon]], [[Tinieblas]], el [[Medico Asesino]] and la [[Sombra Vengadora]]
#[[Las Momias de Guanajuato (1970)]] (The Mummies of Guanajuato), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[Vuelven Los Campeones Justicieros (1972)]] (The Champions of Justice Return), with [[Blue Demon]], el [[Fantasma Blanco]], el [[Rayo de Jalisco]] and el [[Avispon Escarlata]]
#[[El Robo de las Momias de Guanajuato (1972)]] (The Theft of the Mummies of Guanajuato), with the [[Blue Angel]] and el [[Rayo de Jalisco]]
#[[Una Rosa sobre el Ring (1972)]] (A Rose in the Ring)
#[[Leyendas Macabras de la Colonia (1973)]] (Macabre Legends of the Colony), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]] (The Vampires of Coyoacán), with [[Superzan]]
#[[Las Momias de San Ángel (1973]]) (The Mummies of San Ángel), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[El Poder Negro (1973)]] (Black Power), with Sergio Oliva
#[[Misterio en las Bermudas (1977)]] (Mystery in Bermuda), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[el Hijo del Santo en la Frontera Sin Ley (1983)]] (Son of Santo in the Lawless Frontier), with el [[Hijo del Santo]]
#[[La Verdad de la Lucha Libre (1988)]] (The Truth about Wrestling)
#[[La Llave Mortal (1990)]] (The Deadly Hold)
#[[Wrestling Women vs. the Brainiac (2007)]] (post-production)

===As Himself===

# AWS: Best of City of Industry 2003 (2003)
# AWS: Legend vs. Legend (2004)
# [[Mil Mascaras vs. the Aztec Mummy (2005)]]

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|66/04/22|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Benny Galant]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|69/[[September 19|09/19]]|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Black Gordman]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|69/10/10|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Bull Ramos]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|71/01/02|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Barón Escarlata]]|unknown}}
{{aline|74/??/??|mask (1)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Frankenstein]]|Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|77/02/22|hair (2)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Alfonso Dantés]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|77/07/29|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|78/[[September 13|09/13]]|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Japan}}
{{aline|88/08/??|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Popitekus]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|94/11/20|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Principe Battu]]|Gasto Avenue, Dallas Texas}}
{{aline|97/06/29|mask (3)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|07/03/17|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Venom (Reynosa)]]|[[Arena Coliseo Reynosa]]}}
{{aline|07/03/20|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Rey Infernal|El Yuma]]|Palenque de la Feria, Reynosa}}
{{aend|(1) Triangle match with Texas; (2) Triangle match with El Halcon; (3) Triangle match with Tinieblas}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras doscaras villano3 1985.jpg|caption=Mil & Dos & V3 - 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=milmascarasfamily.jpg|caption=La Familia}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras04.jpg|caption=2005}}
{{Gallery|name=MILMascarasmasks.JPG|caption=Mil Mascaras displays his many masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Don Personalidad.jpg|caption=early 80's}}
{{Gallery|name=coyocan2.jpg|caption=[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Milmas08.jpg|caption=one more mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas16.jpg|caption=Mil vs Killer late 80s'?}}
{{Gallery|name=FUNCION0073.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mildossico.jpg|caption=Mascaras brothers}}
{{Gallery|name=Milyhalcon.JPG|caption=70's}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas15.jpg|caption=after mask match against [[Gran Markus Jr.]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=psicomil.jpg|caption=using his psychedelic mask}}
{{Gallery|name=otraMascara.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_mmo-007.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=MilMascarasDoscaras.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Milvscanek.jpg|caption=Mil vs Canek rivalidad 90's}}
{{Gallery|name=Tinieblassryjr.jpg|caption=[[Tinieblas]][[Tinieblas Jr.]][[Hijo del Santo]][[Alushe]]y Mil}}
 
{{Gallery|name=TODOXELTODO.jpg|caption=Todo X El Todo}}
{{Gallery|name=Gandores.jpg|caption=Mil Mascaras & [[Fantasma]] vs. [[Dos Caras]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Milaudaz.jpg|caption=w/ [[El Audaz]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSDOSCARAS.jpg|caption=Plancha vs. [[Dos Caras]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSTINIEBLAS.jpg|caption=vs. [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=wwaheavy_mil.jpg|caption=double champion}}
 
{{Gallery|name=MIL1.jpg|caption=vs. [[Kamala]]}}

=== Masks of Mil Mascaras ===
{{Gallery|name=Picmil.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil33.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil35.jpg|caption=REY MISTERIO Y MIL MASCARAS}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil36.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil32.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_tribel.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil6.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil7.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil8.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil9.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil20.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil11.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil12.JPG‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil13.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil14.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil15.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil16.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil17.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil18.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil19.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil21.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil22.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil2.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil3.JPG|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil4.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil5.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil23.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil24.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil25.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil26.JPG|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil27.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil28.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil29.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil30.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil31.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil10.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil01.JPG‎‎|caption=The most popular}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil02.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil1b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil3b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil34.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil00b.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil1.JPG|caption=}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]

Mil Máscaras

2008-09-23T03:09:52Z

El Rudo:

__NOTOC__== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milmascaras.jpg
|name=Mil Máscaras
|nicknames=The Man of 1,000 masks, Mr. Personalidad (Mr. Personality)
|nameHistory=Mil Máscaras (07/65 - )
|family=[[Dos Caras]] and [[Sicodelico]] (brothers), [[Dos Caras Jr.]] and [[Sicodelico Jr.]] (nephews)
|maestro=[["El Turco" José Hérmes]], [[Diablo Velasco]]
|birthdate=[[July 15]], [[1942]] - [[San Luis Potosí]], [[San Luis Potosí]]
|obituarydate=
|debut= [[16]] [[July]], [[1965]] - [[Arena México]], [[D.F.]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'11"/180 cms
|weight=231 lbs/105 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Plancha]], [[Plancha suicida]], [[Flying double chest chop]], [[Bearhug]]
|titles=[[National Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), Georgia: [[IWA World Heavyweight Title]], Los Angeles: Continental Title, NWA Americas Heavyweight Title (2), [[NWA Americas Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[Alfonso Dantes]], w/ [[Ray Mendoza]]), Dallas: World Class American Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), World Class Texas Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), WCWA World Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jeff Jarrett]]), Guatemala: [[ALLL World Heavyweight Title]], Japan: PWF United States Heavyweight Title, [[WWA World Heavyweight Title]]
}}{{WONHOF}}

== Biography ==
Usually called ''La Leyenda Viviente''(the living legend), Mil was born in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Some bios list his birth year 1938, 1941 or 1942 or even 1944, but the most common date is 1942.

The character of Mil Mascaras was announced before his debut. The gimmick is a creation of "El Rey Midas de la Lucha Libre", [[Valente Perez]], and in fact, the first appearances of Mil Mascaras were not by the current (and long time) man under the mask. Valente came up with the idea of of Mil wearing a different mask for each presentation, and this has sometime expanded to him wearing two masks for matches, throwing one to the crowd.

Mil made his debut as Ricardo Duran, and was trained by [[Diablo Velasco]]. He was the first Mexican and the first masked man who appeared in the Madison Square Garden, and he's famous in Japan.

One of Mil's first feud matches was against [[Benny Galant]], who Mil beat for his hair. Mil has had notables feuds [[Canek]], [[Gran Markus Jr.]] and [[El Halcón]]. Mil's popularity has also increased due to his movies.

He's still wrestling today.

===Filmography===
#[[Mil Máscaras (1966)]], 1st appearance and origin of Mil Mascaras (the only B&W film in the series)
#[[Los Canallas (1966)]] (The Scoundrels aka The Swine), co-stars Regina Torne
#[[Enigma de Muerte (1968)]] (Enigma of Death), with John Carradine
#[[Las Vampiras (1968)]] (The Vampire Girls), with John Carradine
#[[Los Campeones Justicieros (1970)]] (The Champions of Justice), with [[Blue Demon]], [[Tinieblas]], el [[Medico Asesino]] and la [[Sombra Vengadora]]
#[[Las Momias de Guanajuato (1970)]] (The Mummies of Guanajuato), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[Vuelven Los Campeones Justicieros (1972)]] (The Champions of Justice Return), with [[Blue Demon]], el [[Fantasma Blanco]], el [[Rayo de Jalisco]] and el [[Avispon Escarlata]]
#[[El Robo de las Momias de Guanajuato (1972)]] (The Theft of the Mummies of Guanajuato), with the [[Blue Angel]] and el [[Rayo de Jalisco]]
#[[Una Rosa sobre el Ring (1972)]] (A Rose in the Ring)
#[[Leyendas Macabras de la Colonia (1973)]] (Macabre Legends of the Colony), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]] (The Vampires of Coyoacán), with [[Superzan]]
#[[Las Momias de San Ángel (1973]]) (The Mummies of San Ángel), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[El Poder Negro (1973)]] (Black Power), with Sergio Oliva
#[[Misterio en las Bermudas (1977)]] (Mystery in Bermuda), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[el Hijo del Santo en la Frontera Sin Ley (1983)]] (Son of Santo in the Lawless Frontier), with el [[Hijo del Santo]]
#[[La Verdad de la Lucha Libre (1988)]] (The Truth about Wrestling)
#[[La Llave Mortal (1990)]] (The Deadly Hold)
#[[Wrestling Women vs. the Brainiac (2007)]] (post-production)

===As Himself===

# AWS: Best of City of Industry 2003 (2003)
# AWS: Legend vs. Legend (2004)
# [[Mil Mascaras vs. the Aztec Mummy (2005)]]

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|66/04/22|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Benny Galant]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|69/[[September 19|09/19]]|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Black Gordman]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|69/10/10|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Bull Ramos]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|71/01/02|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Barón Escarlata]]|unknown}}
{{aline|74/??/??|mask (1)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Frankenstein]]|Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|77/02/22|hair (2)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Alfonso Dantés]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|77/07/29|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|78/[[September 13|09/13]]|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Japan}}
{{aline|88/08/??|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Popitekus]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|94/11/20|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Principe Battu]]|Gasto Avenue, Dallas Texas}}
{{aline|97/06/29|mask (3)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|07/03/17|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Venom (Reynosa)]]|[[Arena Coliseo Reynosa]]}}
{{aline|07/03/20|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Rey Infernal|El Yuma]]|Palenque de la Feria, Reynosa}}
{{aend|(1) Triangle match with Texas; (2) Triangle match with El Halcon; (3) Triangle match with Tinieblas}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras doscaras villano3 1985.jpg|caption=Mil & Dos & V3 - 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=milmascarasfamily.jpg|caption=La Familia}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras04.jpg|caption=2005}}
{{Gallery|name=MILMascarasmasks.JPG|caption=Mil Mascaras displays his many masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Don Personalidad.jpg|caption=early 80's}}
{{Gallery|name=coyocan2.jpg|caption=[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Milmas08.jpg|caption=one more mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas16.jpg|caption=Mil vs Killer late 80s'?}}
{{Gallery|name=FUNCION0073.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mildossico.jpg|caption=Mascaras brothers}}
{{Gallery|name=Milyhalcon.JPG|caption=70's}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas15.jpg|caption=after mask match against [[Gran Markus Jr.]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=psicomil.jpg|caption=using his psychedelic mask}}
{{Gallery|name=otraMascara.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_mmo-007.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=MilMascarasDoscaras.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Milvscanek.jpg|caption=Mil vs Canek rivalidad 90's}}
{{Gallery|name=Tinieblassryjr.jpg|caption=[[Tinieblas]][[Tinieblas Jr.]][[Hijo del Santo]][[Alushe]]y Mil}}
 
{{Gallery|name=TODOXELTODO.jpg|caption=Todo X El Todo}}
{{Gallery|name=Gandores.jpg|caption=Mil Mascaras & [[Fantasma]] vs. [[Dos Caras]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Milaudaz.jpg|caption=w/ [[El Audaz]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSDOSCARAS.jpg|caption=Plancha vs. [[Dos Caras]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSTINIEBLAS.jpg|caption=vs. [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=wwaheavy_mil.jpg|caption=double champion}}
 
{{Gallery|name=MIL1.jpg|caption=vs. [[Kamala]]}}

=== Masks of Mil Mascaras ===
{{Gallery|name=Picmil.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil33.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil35.jpg|caption=REY MISTERIO Y MIL MASCARAS}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil36.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil32.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_tribel.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil6.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil7.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil8.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil9.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil20.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil11.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil12.JPG‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil13.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil14.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil15.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil16.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil17.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil18.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil19.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil21.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil22.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil2.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil3.JPG|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil4.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil5.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil23.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil24.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil25.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil26.JPG|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil27.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil28.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil29.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil30.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil31.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil10.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil01.JPG‎‎|caption=The most popular}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil02.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil1b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil3b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil34.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil00b.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil1.JPG|caption=}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]

Mil Máscaras

2008-09-23T03:09:38Z

El Rudo:

__NOTOC__== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milmascaras.jpg
|name=Mil Máscaras
|nicknames=The Man of 1,000 masks, Mr. Personalidad (Mr. Personality)
|nameHistory=Mil Máscaras (07/65 - )
|family=[[Dos Caras]] and [[Sicodelico]] (brothers), [[Dos Caras Jr.]] and [[Sicodelico Jr.]] (nephews)
|maestro=[["El Turco" José Hérmes]], [[Diablo Velasco]]
|birthdate=[[July 15]], [[1942]] - [[San Luis Potosí]], [[San Luis Potosí]]
|obituarydate=
|debut= [[16]] [[July]] [[1965]] - [[Arena México]], [[D.F.]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'11"/180 cms
|weight=231 lbs/105 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Plancha]], [[Plancha suicida]], [[Flying double chest chop]], [[Bearhug]]
|titles=[[National Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), Georgia: [[IWA World Heavyweight Title]], Los Angeles: Continental Title, NWA Americas Heavyweight Title (2), [[NWA Americas Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[Alfonso Dantes]], w/ [[Ray Mendoza]]), Dallas: World Class American Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), World Class Texas Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), WCWA World Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jeff Jarrett]]), Guatemala: [[ALLL World Heavyweight Title]], Japan: PWF United States Heavyweight Title, [[WWA World Heavyweight Title]]
}}{{WONHOF}}

== Biography ==
Usually called ''La Leyenda Viviente''(the living legend), Mil was born in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Some bios list his birth year 1938, 1941 or 1942 or even 1944, but the most common date is 1942.

The character of Mil Mascaras was announced before his debut. The gimmick is a creation of "El Rey Midas de la Lucha Libre", [[Valente Perez]], and in fact, the first appearances of Mil Mascaras were not by the current (and long time) man under the mask. Valente came up with the idea of of Mil wearing a different mask for each presentation, and this has sometime expanded to him wearing two masks for matches, throwing one to the crowd.

Mil made his debut as Ricardo Duran, and was trained by [[Diablo Velasco]]. He was the first Mexican and the first masked man who appeared in the Madison Square Garden, and he's famous in Japan.

One of Mil's first feud matches was against [[Benny Galant]], who Mil beat for his hair. Mil has had notables feuds [[Canek]], [[Gran Markus Jr.]] and [[El Halcón]]. Mil's popularity has also increased due to his movies.

He's still wrestling today.

===Filmography===
#[[Mil Máscaras (1966)]], 1st appearance and origin of Mil Mascaras (the only B&W film in the series)
#[[Los Canallas (1966)]] (The Scoundrels aka The Swine), co-stars Regina Torne
#[[Enigma de Muerte (1968)]] (Enigma of Death), with John Carradine
#[[Las Vampiras (1968)]] (The Vampire Girls), with John Carradine
#[[Los Campeones Justicieros (1970)]] (The Champions of Justice), with [[Blue Demon]], [[Tinieblas]], el [[Medico Asesino]] and la [[Sombra Vengadora]]
#[[Las Momias de Guanajuato (1970)]] (The Mummies of Guanajuato), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[Vuelven Los Campeones Justicieros (1972)]] (The Champions of Justice Return), with [[Blue Demon]], el [[Fantasma Blanco]], el [[Rayo de Jalisco]] and el [[Avispon Escarlata]]
#[[El Robo de las Momias de Guanajuato (1972)]] (The Theft of the Mummies of Guanajuato), with the [[Blue Angel]] and el [[Rayo de Jalisco]]
#[[Una Rosa sobre el Ring (1972)]] (A Rose in the Ring)
#[[Leyendas Macabras de la Colonia (1973)]] (Macabre Legends of the Colony), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]] (The Vampires of Coyoacán), with [[Superzan]]
#[[Las Momias de San Ángel (1973]]) (The Mummies of San Ángel), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[El Poder Negro (1973)]] (Black Power), with Sergio Oliva
#[[Misterio en las Bermudas (1977)]] (Mystery in Bermuda), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[el Hijo del Santo en la Frontera Sin Ley (1983)]] (Son of Santo in the Lawless Frontier), with el [[Hijo del Santo]]
#[[La Verdad de la Lucha Libre (1988)]] (The Truth about Wrestling)
#[[La Llave Mortal (1990)]] (The Deadly Hold)
#[[Wrestling Women vs. the Brainiac (2007)]] (post-production)

===As Himself===

# AWS: Best of City of Industry 2003 (2003)
# AWS: Legend vs. Legend (2004)
# [[Mil Mascaras vs. the Aztec Mummy (2005)]]

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|66/04/22|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Benny Galant]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|69/[[September 19|09/19]]|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Black Gordman]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|69/10/10|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Bull Ramos]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|71/01/02|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Barón Escarlata]]|unknown}}
{{aline|74/??/??|mask (1)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Frankenstein]]|Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|77/02/22|hair (2)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Alfonso Dantés]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|77/07/29|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|78/[[September 13|09/13]]|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Japan}}
{{aline|88/08/??|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Popitekus]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|94/11/20|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Principe Battu]]|Gasto Avenue, Dallas Texas}}
{{aline|97/06/29|mask (3)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|07/03/17|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Venom (Reynosa)]]|[[Arena Coliseo Reynosa]]}}
{{aline|07/03/20|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Rey Infernal|El Yuma]]|Palenque de la Feria, Reynosa}}
{{aend|(1) Triangle match with Texas; (2) Triangle match with El Halcon; (3) Triangle match with Tinieblas}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras doscaras villano3 1985.jpg|caption=Mil & Dos & V3 - 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=milmascarasfamily.jpg|caption=La Familia}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras04.jpg|caption=2005}}
{{Gallery|name=MILMascarasmasks.JPG|caption=Mil Mascaras displays his many masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Don Personalidad.jpg|caption=early 80's}}
{{Gallery|name=coyocan2.jpg|caption=[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Milmas08.jpg|caption=one more mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas16.jpg|caption=Mil vs Killer late 80s'?}}
{{Gallery|name=FUNCION0073.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mildossico.jpg|caption=Mascaras brothers}}
{{Gallery|name=Milyhalcon.JPG|caption=70's}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas15.jpg|caption=after mask match against [[Gran Markus Jr.]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=psicomil.jpg|caption=using his psychedelic mask}}
{{Gallery|name=otraMascara.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_mmo-007.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=MilMascarasDoscaras.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Milvscanek.jpg|caption=Mil vs Canek rivalidad 90's}}
{{Gallery|name=Tinieblassryjr.jpg|caption=[[Tinieblas]][[Tinieblas Jr.]][[Hijo del Santo]][[Alushe]]y Mil}}
 
{{Gallery|name=TODOXELTODO.jpg|caption=Todo X El Todo}}
{{Gallery|name=Gandores.jpg|caption=Mil Mascaras & [[Fantasma]] vs. [[Dos Caras]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Milaudaz.jpg|caption=w/ [[El Audaz]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSDOSCARAS.jpg|caption=Plancha vs. [[Dos Caras]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSTINIEBLAS.jpg|caption=vs. [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=wwaheavy_mil.jpg|caption=double champion}}
 
{{Gallery|name=MIL1.jpg|caption=vs. [[Kamala]]}}

=== Masks of Mil Mascaras ===
{{Gallery|name=Picmil.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil33.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil35.jpg|caption=REY MISTERIO Y MIL MASCARAS}}
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{{Gallery|name=Mil31.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil10.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil01.JPG‎‎|caption=The most popular}}
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[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]

Mil Máscaras

2008-09-23T03:09:00Z

El Rudo:

__NOTOC__== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milmascaras.jpg
|name=Mil Máscaras
|nicknames=The Man of 1,000 masks, Mr. Personalidad (Mr. Personality)
|nameHistory=Mil Máscaras (07/65 - )
|family=[[Dos Caras]] and [[Sicodelico]] (brothers), [[Dos Caras Jr.]] and [[Sicodelico Jr.]] (nephews)
|maestro=[["El Turco" José Hérmes]], [[Diablo Velasco]]
|birthdate=[[July 15]], [[1942]] - [[San Luis Potosí]], [[San Luis Potosí]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[16]][[July]] [[1965]] - [[Arena México]], [[D.F.]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'11"/180 cms
|weight=231 lbs/105 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Plancha]], [[Plancha suicida]], [[Flying double chest chop]], [[Bearhug]]
|titles=[[National Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), Georgia: [[IWA World Heavyweight Title]], Los Angeles: Continental Title, NWA Americas Heavyweight Title (2), [[NWA Americas Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[Alfonso Dantes]], w/ [[Ray Mendoza]]), Dallas: World Class American Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), World Class Texas Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), WCWA World Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jeff Jarrett]]), Guatemala: [[ALLL World Heavyweight Title]], Japan: PWF United States Heavyweight Title, [[WWA World Heavyweight Title]]
}}{{WONHOF}}

== Biography ==
Usually called ''La Leyenda Viviente''(the living legend), Mil was born in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Some bios list his birth year 1938, 1941 or 1942 or even 1944, but the most common date is 1942.

The character of Mil Mascaras was announced before his debut. The gimmick is a creation of "El Rey Midas de la Lucha Libre", [[Valente Perez]], and in fact, the first appearances of Mil Mascaras were not by the current (and long time) man under the mask. Valente came up with the idea of of Mil wearing a different mask for each presentation, and this has sometime expanded to him wearing two masks for matches, throwing one to the crowd.

Mil made his debut as Ricardo Duran, and was trained by [[Diablo Velasco]]. He was the first Mexican and the first masked man who appeared in the Madison Square Garden, and he's famous in Japan.

One of Mil's first feud matches was against [[Benny Galant]], who Mil beat for his hair. Mil has had notables feuds [[Canek]], [[Gran Markus Jr.]] and [[El Halcón]]. Mil's popularity has also increased due to his movies.

He's still wrestling today.

===Filmography===
#[[Mil Máscaras (1966)]], 1st appearance and origin of Mil Mascaras (the only B&W film in the series)
#[[Los Canallas (1966)]] (The Scoundrels aka The Swine), co-stars Regina Torne
#[[Enigma de Muerte (1968)]] (Enigma of Death), with John Carradine
#[[Las Vampiras (1968)]] (The Vampire Girls), with John Carradine
#[[Los Campeones Justicieros (1970)]] (The Champions of Justice), with [[Blue Demon]], [[Tinieblas]], el [[Medico Asesino]] and la [[Sombra Vengadora]]
#[[Las Momias de Guanajuato (1970)]] (The Mummies of Guanajuato), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[Vuelven Los Campeones Justicieros (1972)]] (The Champions of Justice Return), with [[Blue Demon]], el [[Fantasma Blanco]], el [[Rayo de Jalisco]] and el [[Avispon Escarlata]]
#[[El Robo de las Momias de Guanajuato (1972)]] (The Theft of the Mummies of Guanajuato), with the [[Blue Angel]] and el [[Rayo de Jalisco]]
#[[Una Rosa sobre el Ring (1972)]] (A Rose in the Ring)
#[[Leyendas Macabras de la Colonia (1973)]] (Macabre Legends of the Colony), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]] (The Vampires of Coyoacán), with [[Superzan]]
#[[Las Momias de San Ángel (1973]]) (The Mummies of San Ángel), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[El Poder Negro (1973)]] (Black Power), with Sergio Oliva
#[[Misterio en las Bermudas (1977)]] (Mystery in Bermuda), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[el Hijo del Santo en la Frontera Sin Ley (1983)]] (Son of Santo in the Lawless Frontier), with el [[Hijo del Santo]]
#[[La Verdad de la Lucha Libre (1988)]] (The Truth about Wrestling)
#[[La Llave Mortal (1990)]] (The Deadly Hold)
#[[Wrestling Women vs. the Brainiac (2007)]] (post-production)

===As Himself===

# AWS: Best of City of Industry 2003 (2003)
# AWS: Legend vs. Legend (2004)
# [[Mil Mascaras vs. the Aztec Mummy (2005)]]

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|66/04/22|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Benny Galant]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|69/[[September 19|09/19]]|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Black Gordman]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|69/10/10|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Bull Ramos]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|71/01/02|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Barón Escarlata]]|unknown}}
{{aline|74/??/??|mask (1)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Frankenstein]]|Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|77/02/22|hair (2)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Alfonso Dantés]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|77/07/29|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|78/[[September 13|09/13]]|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Japan}}
{{aline|88/08/??|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Popitekus]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|94/11/20|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Principe Battu]]|Gasto Avenue, Dallas Texas}}
{{aline|97/06/29|mask (3)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|07/03/17|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Venom (Reynosa)]]|[[Arena Coliseo Reynosa]]}}
{{aline|07/03/20|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Rey Infernal|El Yuma]]|Palenque de la Feria, Reynosa}}
{{aend|(1) Triangle match with Texas; (2) Triangle match with El Halcon; (3) Triangle match with Tinieblas}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras doscaras villano3 1985.jpg|caption=Mil & Dos & V3 - 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=milmascarasfamily.jpg|caption=La Familia}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras04.jpg|caption=2005}}
{{Gallery|name=MILMascarasmasks.JPG|caption=Mil Mascaras displays his many masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Don Personalidad.jpg|caption=early 80's}}
{{Gallery|name=coyocan2.jpg|caption=[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Milmas08.jpg|caption=one more mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas16.jpg|caption=Mil vs Killer late 80s'?}}
{{Gallery|name=FUNCION0073.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mildossico.jpg|caption=Mascaras brothers}}
{{Gallery|name=Milyhalcon.JPG|caption=70's}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas15.jpg|caption=after mask match against [[Gran Markus Jr.]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=psicomil.jpg|caption=using his psychedelic mask}}
{{Gallery|name=otraMascara.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_mmo-007.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=MilMascarasDoscaras.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Milvscanek.jpg|caption=Mil vs Canek rivalidad 90's}}
{{Gallery|name=Tinieblassryjr.jpg|caption=[[Tinieblas]][[Tinieblas Jr.]][[Hijo del Santo]][[Alushe]]y Mil}}
 
{{Gallery|name=TODOXELTODO.jpg|caption=Todo X El Todo}}
{{Gallery|name=Gandores.jpg|caption=Mil Mascaras & [[Fantasma]] vs. [[Dos Caras]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Milaudaz.jpg|caption=w/ [[El Audaz]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSDOSCARAS.jpg|caption=Plancha vs. [[Dos Caras]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSTINIEBLAS.jpg|caption=vs. [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=wwaheavy_mil.jpg|caption=double champion}}
 
{{Gallery|name=MIL1.jpg|caption=vs. [[Kamala]]}}

=== Masks of Mil Mascaras ===
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{{Gallery|name=Mil35.jpg|caption=REY MISTERIO Y MIL MASCARAS}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil36.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil32.jpg|caption=}}
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{{Gallery|name=Mil6.JPG|caption=}}
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{{Gallery|name=Mil11.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
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{{Gallery|name=Mil15.JPG|caption=}}
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{{Gallery|name=Mil30.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil31.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil10.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil01.JPG‎‎|caption=The most popular}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil02.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil1b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil3b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil34.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil00b.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil1.JPG|caption=}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]

Mil Máscaras

2008-09-19T00:29:00Z

El Rudo:

__NOTOC__== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Milmascaras.jpg
|name=Mil Máscaras
|nicknames=The Man of 1,000 masks, Mr. Personalidad (Mr. Personality)
|nameHistory=Mil Máscaras (07/65 - )
|family=[[Dos Caras]] and [[Sicodelico]] (brothers), [[Dos Caras Jr.]] and [[Sicodelico Jr.]] (nephews)
|maestro=[["El Turco" José Hérmes]], [[Diablo Velasco]]
|birthdate=[[July 15]], [[1942]] - [[San Luis Potosí]], [[San Luis Potosí]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[April]] [[1965]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'11"/180 cms
|weight=231 lbs/105 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Plancha]], [[Plancha suicida]], [[Flying double chest chop]], [[Bearhug]]
|titles=[[National Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), Georgia: [[IWA World Heavyweight Title]], Los Angeles: Continental Title, NWA Americas Heavyweight Title (2), [[NWA Americas Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[Alfonso Dantes]], w/ [[Ray Mendoza]]), Dallas: World Class American Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), World Class Texas Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jose Lothario]]), WCWA World Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Jeff Jarrett]]), Guatemala: [[ALLL World Heavyweight Title]], Japan: PWF United States Heavyweight Title, [[WWA World Heavyweight Title]]
}}{{WONHOF}}

== Biography ==
Usually called ''La Leyenda Viviente''(the living legend), Mil was born in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Some bios list his birth year 1938, 1941 or 1942 or even 1944, but the most common date is 1942.

The character of Mil Mascaras was announced before his debut. The gimmick is a creation of "El Rey Midas de la Lucha Libre", [[Valente Perez]], and in fact, the first appearances of Mil Mascaras were not by the current (and long time) man under the mask. Valente came up with the idea of of Mil wearing a different mask for each presentation, and this has sometime expanded to him wearing two masks for matches, throwing one to the crowd.

Mil made his debut as Ricardo Duran, and was trained by [[Diablo Velasco]]. He was the first Mexican and the first masked man who appeared in the Madison Square Garden, and he's famous in Japan.

One of Mil's first feud matches was against [[Benny Galant]], who Mil beat for his hair. Mil has had notables feuds [[Canek]], [[Gran Markus Jr.]] and [[El Halcón]]. Mil's popularity has also increased due to his movies.

He's still wrestling today.

===Filmography===
#[[Mil Máscaras (1966)]], 1st appearance and origin of Mil Mascaras (the only B&W film in the series)
#[[Los Canallas (1966)]] (The Scoundrels aka The Swine), co-stars Regina Torne
#[[Enigma de Muerte (1968)]] (Enigma of Death), with John Carradine
#[[Las Vampiras (1968)]] (The Vampire Girls), with John Carradine
#[[Los Campeones Justicieros (1970)]] (The Champions of Justice), with [[Blue Demon]], [[Tinieblas]], el [[Medico Asesino]] and la [[Sombra Vengadora]]
#[[Las Momias de Guanajuato (1970)]] (The Mummies of Guanajuato), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[Vuelven Los Campeones Justicieros (1972)]] (The Champions of Justice Return), with [[Blue Demon]], el [[Fantasma Blanco]], el [[Rayo de Jalisco]] and el [[Avispon Escarlata]]
#[[El Robo de las Momias de Guanajuato (1972)]] (The Theft of the Mummies of Guanajuato), with the [[Blue Angel]] and el [[Rayo de Jalisco]]
#[[Una Rosa sobre el Ring (1972)]] (A Rose in the Ring)
#[[Leyendas Macabras de la Colonia (1973)]] (Macabre Legends of the Colony), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]] (The Vampires of Coyoacán), with [[Superzan]]
#[[Las Momias de San Ángel (1973]]) (The Mummies of San Ángel), with el [[Fantasma Blanco]] and [[Tinieblas]]
#[[El Poder Negro (1973)]] (Black Power), with Sergio Oliva
#[[Misterio en las Bermudas (1977)]] (Mystery in Bermuda), with [[Santo]] and [[Blue Demon]]
#[[el Hijo del Santo en la Frontera Sin Ley (1983)]] (Son of Santo in the Lawless Frontier), with el [[Hijo del Santo]]
#[[La Verdad de la Lucha Libre (1988)]] (The Truth about Wrestling)
#[[La Llave Mortal (1990)]] (The Deadly Hold)
#[[Wrestling Women vs. the Brainiac (2007)]] (post-production)

===As Himself===

# AWS: Best of City of Industry 2003 (2003)
# AWS: Legend vs. Legend (2004)
# [[Mil Mascaras vs. the Aztec Mummy (2005)]]

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|66/04/22|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Benny Galant]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|69/[[September 19|09/19]]|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Black Gordman]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|69/10/10|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Bull Ramos]]|L.A. Olympic Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA, USA}}
{{aline|71/01/02|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Barón Escarlata]]|unknown}}
{{aline|74/??/??|mask (1)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Frankenstein]]|Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|77/02/22|hair (2)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Alfonso Dantés]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|77/07/29|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|78/[[September 13|09/13]]|mask|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[El Halcón]]|Japan}}
{{aline|88/08/??|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Popitekus]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|94/11/20|hair|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Principe Battu]]|Gasto Avenue, Dallas Texas}}
{{aline|97/06/29|mask (3)|[[Mil Máscaras]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|07/03/17|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Venom (Reynosa)]]|[[Arena Coliseo Reynosa]]}}
{{aline|07/03/20|mask|Mil Máscaras|[[Rey Infernal|El Yuma]]|Palenque de la Feria, Reynosa}}
{{aend|(1) Triangle match with Texas; (2) Triangle match with El Halcon; (3) Triangle match with Tinieblas}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras doscaras villano3 1985.jpg|caption=Mil & Dos & V3 - 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=milmascarasfamily.jpg|caption=La Familia}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmascaras04.jpg|caption=2005}}
{{Gallery|name=MILMascarasmasks.JPG|caption=Mil Mascaras displays his many masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Don Personalidad.jpg|caption=early 80's}}
{{Gallery|name=coyocan2.jpg|caption=[[Los Vampiros de Coyoacán (1973)]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Milmas08.jpg|caption=one more mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas16.jpg|caption=Mil vs Killer late 80s'?}}
{{Gallery|name=FUNCION0073.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mildossico.jpg|caption=Mascaras brothers}}
{{Gallery|name=Milyhalcon.JPG|caption=70's}}
{{Gallery|name=Milmas15.jpg|caption=after mask match against [[Gran Markus Jr.]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=psicomil.jpg|caption=using his psychedelic mask}}
{{Gallery|name=otraMascara.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_mmo-007.jpg|caption=other mask}}
{{Gallery|name=MilMascarasDoscaras.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Milvscanek.jpg|caption=Mil vs Canek rivalidad 90's}}
{{Gallery|name=Tinieblassryjr.jpg|caption=[[Tinieblas]][[Tinieblas Jr.]][[Hijo del Santo]][[Alushe]]y Mil}}
 
{{Gallery|name=TODOXELTODO.jpg|caption=Todo X El Todo}}
{{Gallery|name=Gandores.jpg|caption=Mil Mascaras & [[Fantasma]] vs. [[Dos Caras]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Milaudaz.jpg|caption=w/ [[El Audaz]] & [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSDOSCARAS.jpg|caption=Plancha vs. [[Dos Caras]]}}
{{Gallery|name=VSTINIEBLAS.jpg|caption=vs. [[Tinieblas]]}}
{{Gallery|name=wwaheavy_mil.jpg|caption=double champion}}
 
{{Gallery|name=MIL1.jpg|caption=vs. [[Kamala]]}}

=== Masks of Mil Mascaras ===
{{Gallery|name=Picmil.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil33.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil35.jpg|caption=REY MISTERIO Y MIL MASCARAS}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil36.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil32.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Pic_tribel.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil6.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil7.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil8.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil9.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil20.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil11.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil12.JPG‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil13.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil14.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil15.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil16.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil17.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil18.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil19.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil21.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil22.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil2.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil3.JPG|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil4.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil5.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil23.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil24.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil25.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil26.JPG|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil27.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil28.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil29.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil30.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil31.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil10.jpg‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil01.JPG‎‎|caption=The most popular}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil02.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil1b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=elmil3b.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil34.jpg‎‎|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Mil00b.JPG‎‎|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Mil1.JPG|caption=}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]

Tiger Mask IV

2008-09-17T02:07:57Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|name=Tiger Mask IV|image=TM4.jpg
|realName=Yoshihiro Yamasaki
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Tiger Mask IV (debut - )
|family=[[Gran Hamada]] (father-in-law), [[Ayako Hamada]] (sister-in-law), [[Xóchitl Hamada]] (sister-in-law), [[Pentagón Black]] (brother-in-law)
|maestro=[[Tiger Mask]], [[Great Sasuke]]
|birthdate=[[October 20]], [[1970]]
|debut=[[July 15]], [[1995]] vs. [[Great Sasuke]] - [[Tokyo Korakuen Hall]] - [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'8"/173 cm
|weight=176 lbs/84 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Tiger Suplex]], [[Millennium Suplex]], [[Rounding Body Press]], [[Crossface Chickenwing]], [[Avalanche Double Underhook Suplex]]
|titles=[[IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship]] (3), [[NWA World Junior Heavyweight Championship]], [[British Commonwealth Jr. Heavyweight Championship]], [[UWA Middleweight Championship]], [[APEX OF TRIANGLE Six Man Tag Team Championship]] (w/ [[Great Sasuke]] & [[Gran Hamada]]), [[Best of the Super Jr.]] Tournament Winner (2004, 2005), Fukumen World League (2007)
|}}

 
== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|98/10/25|masks|[[Great Sasuke]] & Tiger Mask IV|[[Masao Orihara|Sasuke the Great]] & [[Masked Tiger]]|Japan}}
{{aend|}}

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category: Japanese wrestlers]]
[[Category:Wrestlers Who Appeared on WWF Los Super Astros]]
[[Category:Current NJPW wrestlers]]
[[Category:TNA wrestlers]]

Kamikaze Misawa

2008-09-15T20:57:16Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Mitsuharu Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II, Mitsuharu Misawa
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto= As Tiger Mask II he commanded his partner Toshiaki Kawada to unmask him [[May 14]]
, [[1990]]
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category: Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

Kamikaze Misawa

2008-09-15T20:56:31Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Kamikaze Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II, Mitsuharu Misawa
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto= As Tiger Mask II he commanded his partner Toshiaki Kawada to unmask him [[May 14]]
, [[1990]]
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category: Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

Kamikaze Misawa

2008-09-15T20:52:14Z

El Rudo: Kamikaze Misawa moved to Mitsuharu Misawa over redirect: actually uses this name and has gotten many championships with this name

{{bioFields|
|image=Misawa 11.jpg
|name=Kamikaze Misawa
|realName=Mitsuharu Misawa
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mitsuharu Misawa, Kamikaze Misawa (in Mexico), Tiger Mask II
|family=
|maestro=[[Giant Baba]], [[Dick Beyer]], [[Dory Funk Jr.]]
|birthdate=[[June 18]], [[1962]]-[[Koshigaya, Saitama]] [[Japan]]
|debut=[[August 21]], [[1981]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=185cm/6'1"
|weight=116kg/243lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Emerald Frosion]], [[Running elbow smash]], [[Tiger Driver]], [[Tiger Suplex]]
|titles=[[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW All Asia Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Kenta Kobashi]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]], AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (x5), AJPW Unified World Tag Team Championship (x6) (with [[Toshiaki Kawada]] (2), [[Kenta Kobashi]] (2), [[Jun Akiyama]] and [[Yoshinari Ogawa]]), PWF World Tag Team Championship (with [[Jumbo Tsuruta]]), GHC Heavyweight Championship (x3), GHC Tag Team Championship (x2) (with [[Yoshinari Ogawa]])
|}}
{{WONHOF}}
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]][[Category: Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Current NOAH wrestlers]]

Hirooki Goto

2008-09-15T20:49:38Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Hirooki.jpg
|name=Hirooki Goto
|realName=
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Hirooki Goto, Goto (CMLL/ 2006)
|family=none
|maestro=[[New Japan Dojo]]
|birthdate=[[June 25]], [[1979]]- [[Kuwana City]], [[Gifu]]
|debut=[[July 6]], [[2003]]
|lostmaskto=n/a
|height=6'0" (182cm)
|weight=209lbs (95kg)
|obituarydate=n/a
|signatureMoves=[[Cross Armbreaker]], [[Jigoku Kuruma]]
|titles=[[IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion]] (w/ [[Minoru Tanaka]]), [[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Title]], [[Young Lion Cup 2005]], [[Samurai! TV Openweight Tag Tournament 2005]], [[Tournament G-1 climax 2008]]
|}}

== Profile ==
During his high school days, Hirooki Goto was a friend of Katsuyori Shibata. Like Shibata, he excelled at amaresu (freestyle and Greco-Roman styles), and received a high ranking prize during his days at Kokushikan University. After graduating from university, he passed a test to enter New Japan. However, he quickly left after suffering a serious shoulder injury, which sidelined him long-term. In November, 2002, he re-challenged New Japan's admission test, and passed it once more, entering the dojo. In July, 2003, he finally debuted, facing Ryusuke Taguchi in Gifu. Shortly after debuting, he entered the junior division, forming an upstart team with Taguchi. After incredibly quick progress, Goto began a gradual push into the heavyweight division. His victory over Team Alliance's Hiroyuki Ito in the 2005 Young Lion Cup showed he was ready to hit the next level, and two months later he captured the IWGP Jr. Tag Team Title with Minoru at the Tokyo Dome, pinning junior legend Koji Kanemoto. One of the many amaresu stars to join New Japan in recent times, Goto is a major prospect for the company, with the credentials to make a name for himself one day. He already shows a great deal of talent and ability, and is without doubt one of the most natural young talents in many years. Recently he won the tournament G-1 Climax and became in the number 1 contender to the IWGP Heavyweight championship, versus the current champion Keiji Mutoh, but he lost the match.

== Sources ==
*[http://www.puroresufan.com/roster/hirooki.php www.puroresufan.com]
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]
[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current NJPW wrestlers]]
[[Category:TNA wrestlers]]

Hirooki Goto

2008-09-15T20:48:20Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

{{bioFields|
|image=Hirooki.jpg
|name=Hirooki Goto
|realName=
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Hirooki Goto, Goto (CMLL/ 2006)
|family=none
|maestro=[[New Japan Dojo]]
|birthdate=[[June 25]], [[1979]]- [[Kuwana City]], [[Gifu]]
|debut=[[July 6]], [[2003]]
|lostmaskto=n/a
|height=6'0" (182cm)
|weight=209lbs (95kg)
|obituarydate=n/a
|signatureMoves=[[Cross Armbreaker]], [[Jigoku Kuruma]]
|titles=[[IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion]] (w/ [[Minoru Tanaka]]), [[NWA International Junior Heavyweight Title]], [[Young Lion Cup 2005]], [[Samurai! TV Openweight Tag Tournament 2005]]
|}}

== Profile ==
During his high school days, Hirooki Goto was a friend of Katsuyori Shibata. Like Shibata, he excelled at amaresu (freestyle and Greco-Roman styles), and received a high ranking prize during his days at Kokushikan University. After graduating from university, he passed a test to enter New Japan. However, he quickly left after suffering a serious shoulder injury, which sidelined him long-term. In November, 2002, he re-challenged New Japan's admission test, and passed it once more, entering the dojo. In July, 2003, he finally debuted, facing Ryusuke Taguchi in Gifu. Shortly after debuting, he entered the junior division, forming an upstart team with Taguchi. After incredibly quick progress, Goto began a gradual push into the heavyweight division. His victory over Team Alliance's Hiroyuki Ito in the 2005 Young Lion Cup showed he was ready to hit the next level, and two months later he captured the IWGP Jr. Tag Team Title with Minoru at the Tokyo Dome, pinning junior legend Koji Kanemoto. One of the many amaresu stars to join New Japan in recent times, Goto is a major prospect for the company, with the credentials to make a name for himself one day. He already shows a great deal of talent and ability, and is without doubt one of the most natural young talents in many years. Recently he won the tournament G-1 Climax and became in the number 1 contender to the IWGP Heavyweight championship, versus the current champion Keiji Mutoh, but he lost the match.

== Sources ==
*[http://www.puroresufan.com/roster/hirooki.php www.puroresufan.com]
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]
[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current NJPW wrestlers]]
[[Category:TNA wrestlers]]

El Samurai

2008-09-13T05:46:02Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=El Samurai.jpg
|name=El Samurai
|realName=Osama Matsuda
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Osama Matsuda (debut - 1991, 2004), El Samurai (March 1991 - )
|family=
|maestro=
|birthdate=[[April 19]], [[1966]]
|debut=[[July 24]], [[1986]]
|lostmaskto=(see note)
|height=5'11"/180 cm
|weight=203 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Samurai Bomb]], [[Chickenwing Armlock]], [[Inverted Brainbuster]], [[Inverted DDT]], [[Reverse Tornado DDT]], [[Frankensteiner]]
|titles=IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion (2), IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion (2) (w/ [[Jushin Liger]]; w/ [[Ryusuke Taguchi]]), British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Champion, NWA Junior Heavyweight Champion, [[NWA World Welterweight Championship]], [[UWA World Middleweight Championship]], [[UWA Junior Heavyweight Championship]] (2), WAR International Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion (w/ [[Jushin Liger]]), [[WWA Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]], [[WWF Light Heavyweight Championship]] (2), [[Super J-Cup 1997]]
|}}

'''Note''': Despite never losing his mask, El Samurai has unmasked on occasion, in 2004 for one night only against [[Osamu Nishimura]], and at a NJPW/MUGA show on 1/29/2005 vs Shinsuke Nakamura.

==Sources==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Matsuda Wikipedia]

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=ElSamurai.jpg|caption=His old look}}
{{Gallery|name=Osamu Matsuda.jpg|caption=wrestling as himself in 2004}}

[[Category:Foreign wrestlers|Samurai]]
[[Category:Japanese wrestlers|Samurai]]

Héctor Garza

2008-09-13T05:36:10Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

== Profile ==

{{bioFields|
|image=hectorgarza02.jpg
|name=Héctor Garza
|realName=Héctor Solano Segura
|nicknames=El Querubín
|nameHistory=Héctor Garza (debut - )
|family=[[Humberto Garza]] (father), [[Humberto Garza Jr.]] (brother), [[Mario Segura]] (uncle)
|maestro=[[Mario Segura|Mario Segura/Mr. Lince]], [[Blue Fish]]
|birthdate=[[June 12]], [[1969]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo León]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[September 4]], [[1992]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo León]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'11"/180 cms
|weight=209 lbs/95 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Huracarrana]], [[Tornillo]], [[Moonsault Press]], [[Tope suicida (over the top of the ringpost)]], [[Corkscrew Plancha]], [[Moonsault Plancha (off outside second turnbuckle)]]
|titles=[[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (4, w/ [[La Fiera]] & [[Dos Caras]], w/ [[Tarzan Boy]] & [[El Terrible]], w/ [[Mr. Aguila]] & [[Perro Aguayo Jr.]], w/ [[Hijo del Fantasma]] & [[La Mascara]]), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[Mistico]]), [[FILL Light Heavyweight Title]], [[UWA World Middleweight Title]], [[IWC World Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[National Light Heavyweight Title]], [[Mexican National Tag Championship]] (w/[[Perro Aguayo Jr.]]), [[Mexican National Heavyweight Championship]], [[WWA World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Perro Aguayo Jr.]])
}}



== Biography ==
Hector Garza is a top rudo for [[CMLL]] who seems to be the second-in-charge man of [[Perros del Mal]].

Garza began his career in CMLL as a young highflying tecnico. He was one of the wrestlers who left for [[AAA]] and then WCW (more notables for injuries than success.) When he returned to Mexico, Garza found his way back to AAA.

Hector Garza made a surprise jump to CMLL on [[June 25]], [[2004]], as it appeared to be a money issue more than anything else. Garza immediately allied himself with [[Perro Aguayo Jr.]], and played a role in Perro turning rudo and forming Perros del Mal. Garza plays the set up man in the Perros, building up opponents to face Perro Aguayo Jr., with enough credibility to make it mean something. In 2005, Garza lost his hair in a match with [[Universo 2000]], which built anticipation for the Perro/Universo match. In 2006, Garza lost in a title match to [[Ultimo Guerrero]], which was a major match in the [[Perros del Mal]]/[[Guerreros del Infierino]] rivalry. Garza has also beaten Pierroth for his hair, when [[Pierroth]] tried and failed a coup in Perros del Mal. All the members turned on him, and not even a dozen more Pierroths could save him.

Garza is a very charismatic wrestler. He's got a strong following of female fans. When he wants to, he can be a good wrestler. Other times, he can be one more relying on shtick. His aerial maneuvers - the [[moonsault]] and the [[tornillo]] (both in the ring and out) are still very impressive.

Hector is one of the current [[CMLL World Trios Championship|CMLL Trios Champions]], but the reign was almost immediatly forgotten and the trio has since split.

In [[2004]], while still a part of AAA, Garza was among those on-loan to U.S. promotion [[TNA]] as part of [[Team Mexico]]. Once the Team X-Division concept was abandoned (as an ongoing concept), Garza remained with the promotion as a singles competitor in the mid-card. Hector was in the midst of receiving a push and being set up for a high profile match against Scott Hall, but an arrest for Steroid Possession unfortunately derailed Garza's future with TNA.

=== 2005 Arrest for Steroid Possession ===

On [[January 5]], [[2005]], Hector Garza was arrested for steroid possession in [[Houston]], on the way to a TNA taping. Officers found the drugs Deca-Durabolin [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone] (an anabolic steroid) and Primobolan [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primobolan] (used between steroid cycles). Those drugs are legal in Mexico, but not in the United States. Garza claimed (and still maintains) he had a legal prescription for the drugs, and later showed it to Mexican magazines as proof of his innocence.

Garza was held on $1000 bail, but opted not to pay on fears he'd be deported to Mexico and not be permitted to return. On [[January 12]], Garza plead guilty to possession of steroids and was sentenced to 15 days in jail. He had already served half that time waiting for the court date, and it's unclear when/if he served the rest. It's also unclear if he has been prohibited from returning the US. Garza has not returned to the US since his arrest, but could be by choice.

Garza would later wear (and sell) t-shirts with the phrase "Si Pepe El Toro es Inocente, Hector Garza Tambien!" (translation: "If Pepe el Toro [http://boards.imdb.com/title/tt0045023/] is innocent, Hector Garza is also".)

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|??/??/??|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[MS-1]]|unknown}}
{{aline|95/04/07|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Satánico]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|95/08/04|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[El Brazo]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|95/12/01|hair (1)|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|95/12/15|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Satánico]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|96/07/29|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Pirata Morgan]]|Arena Puebla - Puebla, Puebla}}
{{aline|00/10/27|hair (2)|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Toro Irisson]]|Auditorio Benito Juárez - Jalapa, Veracruz}}
{{aline|01/01/26|hair|Héctor Garza|[[Loco Zandokan II]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|01/11/23|hair (3)|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Heavy Metal]]|Plaza México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|03/07/06|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Pimpinela Escarlata]]|Arena Solidaridad - Monterrey, Nuevo León}}
{{aline|03/10/26|hair|[[Latin Lover]]|[[Héctor Garza]]|Arena Solidaridad - Monterrey, Nuevo León}}
{{aline|05/08/19|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Pierroth]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|05/[[September 16|09/16]]|hair (4)|[[Universo 2000]]|[[Héctor Garza]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|07/03/18|hair|[[Héctor Garza]]|[[Super Parka]]|Gimnasio Nuevo Leon - Monterrey, Nuevo Leon}}
{{aline|08/03/21|hair|[[Perro Aguayo Jr.]]|Héctor Garza|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aend|(1) Triangle match with Satánico; (2) Cage match; (3) Four way match with Aguayo Jr. & Latin Lover; (4) Triangle match with Perro Aguayo Jr.}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery||name=Hectorgarza.jpg|caption=older}}
{{Gallery||name=PerroAguayoHectorGarzaELCanekWWF.jpg|caption= Teaming with Perro and Canek in WWF}}
{{Gallery||name=HectorGarzaHeavyMetalWWF.jpg|caption=in WWF}}
{{Gallery||name=FThectorgarza.jpg|caption= Héctor Garza en leonguanajuato.com}}
{{Gallery||name=HectorGarzaWWF.jpg|caption=in WWF}}
{{Gallery||name=Estelar11.jpg|caption=}}
 
{{Gallery||name=Estelar21.jpg|caption=}}
{{CMLLTitleBox}}
{{WWATitleBox}}
[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers|Hector Garza]]
[[Category:Mexican wrestlers|Hector Garza]]
[[Category:WCW Nitro wrestlers|Hector Garza]]
[[Category:TNA wrestlers|Hector Garza]]

Silver King

2008-09-13T05:27:21Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

{{Status}}
== Profile ==

{{bioFields|
|image=Sk07.jpg
|name=Silver King
|realName=César Cuauhtémoc González Barrón
|nicknames=El Fabuloso (The Fabulous One), El Efectivo (The Effective One)
|nameHistory=El Invasor (debut - ??), Silver King (?? - 2001, 2006 - current), Dr. Wagner Jr. (NJPW, 10/87), Black Tiger (06/01 - 2005), Bronco (2005), El Hermano De Dr. Wagner/Dr. Wagner II (2006), Ramses ([[Nacho Libre]] (2006), 2006 -)
|family=[[Dr. Wagner]] (father), [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (brother), [[Xochitl Hamada]] (former wife)
|maestro=[[Dr. Wagner]], [[Gran Markus]]
|birthdate=January 9, 1968 - Torreón, Coahuila
|obituarydate=n/a
|debut=November 1985 - Matamoros, Coahuila
|lostmaskto=[[El Hijo del Santo]] - November 13, 1987 - Auditorio de Tijuana (as Silver King) 
[[LA Park]] - Feburary 4, 2006 - Auditorio Municipal de Torreon (as Black Tiger III)
|height=5'9"/176 cms
|weight=216 lbs/98 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Superkick]], [[Moonsault press]], [[Airplane Spin]], [[Plancha suicida off second rope inside the ring]], [[Swinging DDT]], [[Death Valley Bomb]]
|titles=[[WWA World Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[El Texano]], w/ [[El Dandy]]), [[UWA World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[El Texano]]), [[UWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (2, w/ [[El Texano]], w/ [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]), [[IWA Japan World Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[El Texano]]), [[CMLL World Heavyweight Title]], [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Universo 2000]], [[IWRG Intercontinental Trios Championship]] (w/ [[Pantera]] & [[Pentagon Black]]), [[UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]], AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title
}}

== Biography ==

He began his career as Silver King in the Universal Wrestling Association and lost his mask early to [[El Hijo del Santo]]. He formed a tag team with [[El Texano]] called "The Cowboys" and the tandem saw success with a UWA and WWA World Tag Team title reigns and an appearance on [[WCW]]'s Clash of the Champions XIX in 1992 being defeated by The Fabulous Freebirds. In 1993, Texano and Silver King jumped to Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre where they continued their success by winning the vacant CMLL tag titles. In singles competition, Silver King feuded with veterans such as Scorpio and Emilio Charles, Jr. and he won the CMLL World Heavyweight title by defeating Black Magic Norman Smiley in 1994. In 1996, he and his brother Dr. Wagner, Jr. defeated Dos Caras and Último Dragón to win the vacant CMLL World Tag-Team titles but in 1997, Silver King joined WCW full time and gave up his half of the title.

Other than a Cruiserweight title challenge against Juventud Guerrera on the 1998 Fall Brawl pay-per-view, he did not receive much of a push, mostly wrestling in opening matches, even though he was a member of the short-lived Latino World Order. He began teaming with El Dandy as Los Fabulosos with Stacy Keibler managing but when Vince Russo took over booking, most of the luchadores in WCW's employ were released or given a much smaller role. After leaving WCW, he returned to CMLL and began wrestling for CMLL's Japanese affiliate, New Japan Pro Wrestling. In 2001, he adopted the "Black Tiger" character previously used by Eddie Guerrero. As Black Tiger, he wrestled several tours with New Japan and had an unsuccessful IWGP Tag Team Championship attempt with his brother against Jushin Liger and El Samurai in 2001. In 2003, New Japan used Mexican wrestlers less and less so Black Tiger wrestled mostly for CMLL, usually as Dr. Wagner, Jr.'s back-up. However, since Black Tiger was supposed to be Japanese (for the Mexican storyline - New Japan had always given the Black Tiger character to a foreigner), the relationship was not publicly recognized by CMLL even when Tiger, Wagner and Universo 2000 won the CMLL World Trios title that year.

After losing the title to Canek, Black Warrior and Rayo de Jalisco, Jr. in 2004, Dr. Wagner, Jr. turned técnico (face) when Dr. Wagner, Sr. died. This left Tiger without much to do and he wrestled mainly in IWRG, Arena Coliseo, CMLL's secondary arena, or he filled in holes in Arena Mexico cards. In 2005, Rocky Romero debuted as New Japan's new Black Tiger. González continued to use the name but CMLL decided to repackage him as "El Bronco." His debut, where he teamed with Elektro (a wrestler from AAA) and L.A. Park against the original members of Los Guerreros del Infierno, was a huge failure. The crowd did not buy Elektro or Bronco and a rematch set for next week on top of the Gran Alterntiva tournament was quickly changed with Hijo del Lizmark and Místico filling in and Bronco replacing Lizmark in the tournament. Elektro was never used again and Bronco was used occasionally in midcard roles. Despite the name change in CMLL, he continued to wrestle as "Black Tiger" in IWRG and in independent promotions. After months of delays due to injuries, he finally lost the Black Tiger mask to L.A. Park in his hometown of Torreón and began wrestling as Silver King again. He appears in Paramount Pictures' Nacho Libre as RAMSES, in which he dons a golden mask.

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1987]]/[[11/13]]|mask|[[El Hijo del Santo]]|[[Silver King]]|[[Auditorio de Tijuana|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California]]}}
{{aline|1988/02/19|hair|[[Kendo]]|[[Silver King]]|Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California}}
{{aline|1990/12/06|hair|[[Silver King]]|[[Black Power II]]|Pista Arena Revolución - Mexico City}}
{{aline|1992/07/12|masks|Silver King & [[El Texano]]|[[Can-Am Express]] ([[Doug Furnas]] & [[Dan Kroffat]])|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|1992/11/08|masks|Silver King & [[El Texano]]|[[Los Crazy Stars]] [[Crazy Star I|I]] & [[Crazy Star II|II]]|El Toreo - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|1992/12/04|hair|[[Silver King]]|[[Loco Zandokan]]|Arena Neza - Nezahualcoyotl, Mexico State}}
{{aline|1994/09/30|hair|[[Silver King]]|[[Scorpio]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|1995/02/09|hair|[[Silver King]]|[[Ari Romero]]|Pista Arena Revolución - Mexico City}}
{{aline|1995/09/22|hair|[[Miguel Pérez Jr.]]|[[Silver King]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|1996/09/27|hair|[[Emilio Charles Jr.]]|[[Silver King]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|1997/03/21|hair|[[Silver King]]|[[La Fiera]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|2006/02/04|mask|[[L.A. Park]]|[[Silver King|Black Tiger III]]|Auditorio Municipal de Torreon }}
{{aline|2007/12/19|hair (1)|[[L.A. Park]]|[[Silver King]]|Arena Lopez Mateos - Mexico, State}}
{{aend|'''(1)''' Cage: [[Hijo de Cien Caras]], [[Canek Jr.]], [[Dos Caras Jr.]], [[L.A. Park]], [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]], Silver King, [[Villano V]] & [[Mano Negra]]}}

== Gallery ==

{{Gallery|name=maskedsk.jpg|caption=Silver King masked}}
{{Gallery|name=uwatag_silverkingtexano.jpg|caption=[[UWA World Tag Team Championship|UWA Tag Champion]] with [[Texano]]}}
{{Gallery|name=blacktiger.jpg|caption=Black Tiger III}}
{{Gallery|name=BT3&DW.jpg|caption=Black Tiger III & [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]}}
{{Gallery|name=silverking.jpg|caption=cowboy}}
{{Gallery|name=CorporacionBelts.jpg|caption=La Corporacion in IWRG}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Bronco.jpg|caption=as Bronco}}
{{Gallery|name=Ramses.jpg|caption=as Ramses}}
{{Gallery|name=Silver_de_nuevo.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=SilverkingAJPW.jpg|caption=remasked in AJPW 2008}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]
[[Category:WCW Nitro wrestlers|Silver King]]
[[Category:Current AAA/PAP wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current IWRG wrestlers|Silver King]]

Rey Wagner

2008-09-13T05:25:28Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

{{Status}}
== Profile ==
{{ShortBio|
|image=201ns5.jpg
|name=Dr. Wagner Jr.
|nicknames=El Galeno del Mal (The Evil Doctor) / El Galeno del Bien (After he became Tecnico)/La Eminencia Clínica Del Ring/El Clínico Del Ring
|nameHistory=Dr. Wagner Jr. (debut - )
|family=[[Dr. Wagner]] (father), [[Silver King]] (brother), [[Rossy Moreno]] (former wife), [[Leon Del Ring]] (nephew)
|maestro=[[Gran Markus]], [[Dr. Wagner]]
|birthdate=August 12, 1965 - Torreón, Coahuila
|debut=April 7, 1986 - Monterrey, Nuevo León
|height=5'10"/177 cms
|weight=216 lbs/98 kg
|signatureMoves=Wagner Driver ([[Michinoku Driver II]]), [[Death Valley Driver]], [[Niagara Driver]], [[Top-Rope Diamond Cutter]], [[Flying Splash]], [[Flying Senton]], [[Tiger Driver]], Running Lariat, [[Running Somersault Plancha (off the apron)]], [[Running Somersault Plancha (off the ramp)]]
|titles=[[Northern Mexico Heavyweight Title]], [[UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Title]], [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Gran Markus Jr.]] & [[El Hijo del Gladiador]] - [[La Ola Blanca]], w/ [[Blue Panther]] & [[Black Warrior]] - [[Los Laguneros,]] w/ [[Fuerza Guerrera]] & [[Blue Panther]]), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Canek]], w/ [[Silver King]], w/ [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], w/ [[Último Guerrero]]), [[New Japan Pro Wrestling]]: IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Kendo Kashin]]), WWC Hardcore Title, [[UWA World Heavyweight Title]], [[WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]]
|}}

== Biography ==

[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] is the top tecnico not wearing a silver mask in [[CMLL]]. He's a young legend to the fans, a wrestler with international experience (and success!) and capable of a great match when he wants one. Dr. Wagner is one of the most popular wrestlers in Mexico, and an iconic figure.

Wagner turned tecnico following the death of [[Dr. Wagner|his father.]] The change was fan inspired; Wagner was in a four way mask match on the first [[Arena Mexico]] show after his father's passing, and the fans did not want him to lose his mask that night under any circumstances. Wagner did not lose his mask, and the crowd clung to him after that moment. Wagner and the promotion tried to go back to the status quo after, but the fans cheered him enough to make a change.

Dr. Wagner becoming a tecnico had ripple affects across the promotion. Since he was feuding with [[Canek]], Canek had to turn rudo to continue it. Later, in [[2005]], the fans loudly picked Wagner over [[Atlantis]] when they were setting up a mask versus mask match, to the point where Atlantis was tainted as a tecnico (and had to be turned rudo) and Wagner had become so popular, the match couldn't be done at a profit to all sides.

Even though the mask match never took place, Atlantis and Wagner continue to be rivals, with the idea all sides might one day do the match in a different arena where the money works out better. (The feud with Canek has slipped to the wayside.)

More pressing for Dr. Wagner at the moment is a feud with another recently turned tecnico, [[LA Park]]. As with Atlantis, the crowd turned on LA Park with no prompting, and he responded in kind. Wagner stuck up for the people of "his house", and he and Park have had violent brawls in the weeks since. A Park/Wagner mask match would seem to have the same financial issues as the Atlantis one, but that's the way they seem to be heading.

Wagner often teams with [[Mistico]], as a big brother/protector to the smaller wrestler. He'll also team with his newly unmasked brother, [[Silver King]], who has been wrestling in some locales as Dr. Wagner Jr. II or el Hermano de Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner has shown himself capable of wrestling Japanese junior and lucha technical styles, but his current feuds and positioning has resulted in him primary working as a brawler with hot comeback moves.

Dr. Wagner Jr. still potentially has many years left in his career. However, he's often said to have saved well from his career and could retire early. It's believed he was going to lose his mask to Atlantis when that match was originally scheduled, which could have been the one last big payoff of his career. Instead, it seems like he's going to hang around for a while longer.

Also see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Wagner%2C_Jr. Wikipedia]

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
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{{aline|08/08/30|hair(1)|Dr. Wagner Jr.|[[Green Demon I]]|Saltillo, Coahuila}}
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== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[July 11]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/177 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 11|07/11]]/[[2008|08]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Blue Panther]] in his 25th anniversary.}}
{{SimpleMatchEnd}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

{{Gallery|name=Atlantis01.jpg||caption=1983}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis02.jpg||caption=circa 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis.jpg|caption=circa 1992}}
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{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_-_nwa_middle.jpg||caption=w/[[NWA World Middleweight Championship|NWA Middlweight]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis06.jpg|caption=2005}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Cmlltag atlantis lizmark.jpg|caption=[[MEX TAG|Mexican Tag Team Champion]], with [[Angel Azteca]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis6.JPG|caption=With collection of captured masks}}
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{{Gallery|name=AtlantisHLL.jpg|caption=Illustration by El Poderoso}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_diabolo_velasco.jpg|caption=Trophy [[Diablo Velasco]], GDL 2007}}

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[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers]]

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Atlantis

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== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[July 11]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleEndMatch}}
 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

{{Gallery|name=Atlantis01.jpg||caption=1983}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis02.jpg||caption=circa 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis.jpg|caption=circa 1992}}
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{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_-_nwa_middle.jpg||caption=w/[[NWA World Middleweight Championship|NWA Middlweight]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis06.jpg|caption=2005}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Cmlltag atlantis lizmark.jpg|caption=[[MEX TAG|Mexican Tag Team Champion]], with [[Angel Azteca]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis6.JPG|caption=With collection of captured masks}}
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{{Gallery|name=AtlantisHLL.jpg|caption=Illustration by El Poderoso}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_diabolo_velasco.jpg|caption=Trophy [[Diablo Velasco]], GDL 2007}}

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== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[July 11]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

{{Gallery|name=Atlantis01.jpg||caption=1983}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis02.jpg||caption=circa 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis.jpg|caption=circa 1992}}
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{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_-_nwa_middle.jpg||caption=w/[[NWA World Middleweight Championship|NWA Middlweight]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis06.jpg|caption=2005}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Cmlltag atlantis lizmark.jpg|caption=[[MEX TAG|Mexican Tag Team Champion]], with [[Angel Azteca]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis6.JPG|caption=With collection of captured masks}}
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{{Gallery|name=AtlantisHLL.jpg|caption=Illustration by El Poderoso}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_diabolo_velasco.jpg|caption=Trophy [[Diablo Velasco]], GDL 2007}}

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== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[July 11]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 11|07/11]]/[[2008|08]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Blue Panther]] in his 25th aniverasry.
{{SimpleMatchEnd}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

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{{Gallery|name=Atlantis06.jpg|caption=2005}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Cmlltag atlantis lizmark.jpg|caption=[[MEX TAG|Mexican Tag Team Champion]], with [[Angel Azteca]]}}
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{{Gallery|name=AtlantisHLL.jpg|caption=Illustration by El Poderoso}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_diabolo_velasco.jpg|caption=Trophy [[Diablo Velasco]], GDL 2007}}

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== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[July 11]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 11|07/11]]/[[2007|07]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Blue Panther]] in his 25th aniverasry.
{{SimpleMatchEnd}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

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Rey Wagner

2008-07-11T03:29:11Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

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== Profile ==
{{ShortBio|
|image=201ns5.jpg
|name=Dr. Wagner Jr.
|nicknames=El Galeno del Mal (The Evil Doctor) / El Galeno del Bien (After he became Tecnico)/La Eminencia Clínica Del Ring
|nameHistory=Dr. Wagner Jr. (debut - )
|family=[[Dr. Wagner]] (father), [[Silver King]] (brother), [[Rossy Moreno]] (former wife), [[Leon Del Ring]] (nephew)
|maestro=[[Gran Markus]], [[Dr. Wagner]]
|birthdate=August 12, 1965 - Torreón, Coahuila
|debut=April 7, 1986 - Monterrey, Nuevo León
|height=5'10"/177 cms
|weight=216 lbs/98 kg
|signatureMoves=Wagner Driver ([[Michinoku Driver II]]), [[Death Valley Driver]], [[Niagara Driver]], [[Top-Rope Diamond Cutter]], [[Flying Splash]], [[Flying Senton]], [[Tiger Driver]], Running Lariat, [[Running Somersault Plancha (off the apron)]], [[Running Somersault Plancha (off the ramp)]]
|titles=[[Northern Mexico Heavyweight Title]], [[UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Title]], [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Gran Markus Jr.]] & [[El Hijo del Gladiador]] - [[La Ola Blanca]], w/ [[Blue Panther]] & [[Black Warrior]] - [[Los Laguneros,]] w/ [[Fuerza Guerrera]] & [[Blue Panther]]), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Canek]], w/ [[Silver King]], w/ [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], w/ [[Último Guerrero]]), [[New Japan Pro Wrestling]]: IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Titles (w/ [[Kendo Kashin]]), WWC Hardcore Title, [[UWA World Heavyweight Title]], [[WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]]
|}}

== Biography ==

[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] is the top tecnico not wearing a silver mask in [[CMLL]]. He's a young legend to the fans, a wrestler with international experience (and success!) and capable of a great match when he wants one. Dr. Wagner is one of the most popular wrestlers in Mexico, and an iconic figure.

Wagner turned tecnico following the death of [[Dr. Wagner|his father.]] The change was fan inspired; Wagner was in a four way mask match on the first [[Arena Mexico]] show after his father's passing, and the fans did not want him to lose his mask that night under any circumstances. Wagner did not lose his mask, and the crowd clung to him after that moment. Wagner and the promotion tried to go back to the status quo after, but the fans cheered him enough to make a change.

Dr. Wagner becoming a tecnico had ripple affects across the promotion. Since he was feuding with [[Canek]], Canek had to turn rudo to continue it. Later, in [[2005]], the fans loudly picked Wagner over [[Atlantis]] when they were setting up a mask versus mask match, to the point where Atlantis was tainted as a tecnico (and had to be turned rudo) and Wagner had become so popular, the match couldn't be done at a profit to all sides.

Even though the mask match never took place, Atlantis and Wagner continue to be rivals, with the idea all sides might one day do the match in a different arena where the money works out better. (The feud with Canek has slipped to the wayside.)

More pressing for Dr. Wagner at the moment is a feud with another recently turned tecnico, [[LA Park]]. As with Atlantis, the crowd turned on LA Park with no prompting, and he responded in kind. Wagner stuck up for the people of "his house", and he and Park have had violent brawls in the weeks since. A Park/Wagner mask match would seem to have the same financial issues as the Atlantis one, but that's the way they seem to be heading.

Wagner often teams with [[Mistico]], as a big brother/protector to the smaller wrestler. He'll also team with his newly unmasked brother, [[Silver King]], who has been wrestling in some locales as Dr. Wagner Jr. II or el Hermano de Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner has shown himself capable of wrestling Japanese junior and lucha technical styles, but his current feuds and positioning has resulted in him primary working as a brawler with hot comeback moves.

Dr. Wagner Jr. still potentially has many years left in his career. However, he's often said to have saved well from his career and could retire early. It's believed he was going to lose his mask to Atlantis when that match was originally scheduled, which could have been the one last big payoff of his career. Instead, it seems like he's going to hang around for a while longer.

Also see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Wagner%2C_Jr. Wikipedia]

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Atlantis

2008-07-10T23:24:05Z

El Rudo:

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== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[July 11]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMatchEnd}}

 

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

== Gallery ==

{{Gallery|name=Atlantis01.jpg||caption=1983}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis02.jpg||caption=circa 1985}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis.jpg|caption=circa 1992}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis03.jpg|caption=100px}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_-_nwa_middle.jpg||caption=w/[[NWA World Middleweight Championship|NWA Middlweight]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis06.jpg|caption=2005}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Cmlltag atlantis lizmark.jpg|caption=[[MEX TAG|Mexican Tag Team Champion]], with [[Angel Azteca]]}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis6.JPG|caption=With collection of captured masks}}
{{Gallery|name=Sin20tC3ADtulo100.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=ATLANTIS2.JPG|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=Atlantisrudazo.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=AtlantisHLL.jpg|caption=Illustration by El Poderoso}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Atlantis_diabolo_velasco.jpg|caption=Trophy [[Diablo Velasco]], GDL 2007}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers]]

{{NWATitleBox}}

Sugi San

2008-06-29T03:01:43Z

El Rudo: Mini CIMA moved to YOSHITSUNE: MINI CIMA GETS A MASK, AND ACTUALLY IS KNOWN AS YOSHITSUNE

{{bioFields|
|image=Minicima.jpg
|name=YOSHITSUNE
|realName=Takuya Sugi
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mini CIMA (debut-2004), Michinoku Ranger Gold, Shanao (M-Pro 2005), Yoshitsune, Little Dragon, El Blazer, AHII (AJPW 2007), HUSTLE Kamen Ranger Red (HUSTLE 2006), Catfish Man (Kensuke Office 2006-), THE*ZEST (Z-1MAX 2007), UWAI #32, Rabbit Boy (AJPW 2008), NOIZE (Z-1MAX 2008-)
|family=
|maestro=[[Ultimo Dragon]]
|birthdate=[[October 6]], [[1983]]
|debut=[[May 11]], [[2003]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=165cm
|weight=60kgs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves= Springboard huracarrana, Shura
|titles= Michinoku Pro Tokohu Jr., [[WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Title]] Disputed Branch (2, 1 as THE*ZEST and 1 as NOIZE)
|}}
== Sources ==
[http://puroresucentral.com/yoshitsune.html Puroresu Central Profile]
[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]

Sugi San

2008-06-29T03:00:48Z

El Rudo:

Gigante Singh

2008-06-29T02:56:08Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|

|image=Khali.jpg
|name=Gigante Singh
|realName=Dalip Singh
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Giant Singh (debut - ), Gigante Singh, The Great Khali (WWE, 2006)
|family=
|maestro=[[All Pro Wrestling Boot Camp]]
|birthdate=[[August 27]], [[1972]]
|debut=[[2000]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=7'2"
|weight=410 lbs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[Iron Claw Slam]], [[Chokeslam]], [[Powerbomb]], [[Flapjack]]
|titles=WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGTH CHAMPIONSHIP
|}}

==Sources==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Singh Wikipedia]

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Giantsinghdalip.jpg|caption=WWE}}

[[Category: Foreign wrestlers]]
[[Category: Indian wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current WWE wrestlers]]

Último Guerrero

2008-05-22T19:48:27Z

El Rudo: /* Profile */

== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=Ultimo guerrero gdl.JPG
|name=Último Guerrero (Last Warrior)
|realName=
|nicknames="El Ultimo de su Estirpe", "El Luchador de Otro Nivel"
|nameHistory=Cóndor Dorado (debut), El Flanagan (90 - 96) Último Guerrero (96 - )
|family=none (not related to [[Safari]] and [[Último Rebelde]])
|maestro=[[Tinito]], [[Halcón Suriano]]
|birthdate=[[March 1]], [[1972]] - [[Gómez Palacio]], [[Durango]]
|obituarydate=
|debut=[[September]] [[1990]] - [[Gómez Palacio]], [[Durango]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=210 lbs/93 kg
|signatureMoves=[[Guerrero Special]], [[Guerrero Submission Special]], [[Mexican Stretch II]], [[Veneno Guerrero]]
|titles=[[Laguna Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Super Punk]]), Torneo la [[Gran Alternativa]] 1999 (w/ [[Blue Panther]]), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (5, 3 w/ [[Rey Bucanero]], 1 w/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]], 1 w/[[Atlantis]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[PRI Circuito Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Rey Bucanero]]), [[WWA World Tag Team Championship]] (w/[[Perro Aguayo Jr.]]), [[Gran Prix|Grand Prix Jr. CMLL]] (2, w/ 2006, 2007), [[CMLL World Trios Championship]] (w/[[Atlantis]] & [[Tarzan Boy]])
}}

 

== Biography ==
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Altimo_Guerrero Wikipedia bio]

== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|98/[[September 11|09/11]]|mask|[[Último Guerrero]]|[[Mr. Águila]]|Arena México - Mexico City}}
{{aline|02/11/17|hair|[[Último Guerrero]]|[[Cuchillo]]|Arena Nueva Aragón - Mexico City}}
{{aline|06/08/10|hair|Último Guerrero|[[Stuka]]|Arena Olimpico Laguna - Gomez Palacio, Durango}}
{{aline|07/09/29|mask|[[Último Guerrero]]|[[Guerrero Zulu]]|Palenque de la Feria - Chiapas}}
{{aline|07/11/03|hair (1)|Último Guerrero|[[Super Parka]]|Arena Monterrey - Monterrey, Nuevo Leon}}
{{aend|(1) RULETA DE LA MUERTE: [[Mistico]], [[Damian 666]], [[Averno]], [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]], [[Atlantis]] & [[Hector Garza]]}}

== Gallery ==
{{Gallery|name=Fglanagan.JPG|caption=As Flanagan}}
{{Gallery|name=Elultimodeloswarriors.JPG|caption=As Flanagan}}
{{Gallery|name=Superpunkyflanagan.JPG|caption=With Super Punk}}
{{Gallery|name=Luchador.JPG|caption=early}}
{{Gallery|name=UltimoGuerrero-PA.jpg|caption=another early shot}}
{{Gallery|name=Ultimoguerreroearly.jpg|caption=early}}
{{Gallery|name=Ultimos.JPG|caption=with [[Último Rebelde]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=ultimoguerrero.jpg|caption=2002 - Infernales}}
{{Gallery|name=Ultimoguerrero-titles.jpg|caption=CMLL LH and Tag Champ}}
{{Gallery|name=Ultimo.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallery|name=UltimoGuerrero22.jpg|caption=Coacalco June 2006}}
{{Gallery|name=cmlltag_drwagnerjrultimogurrero.jpg|caption=[[CMLL World Tag Team Championship|Tag Champ]] w/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]}}
{{Gallery|name=UG8.JPG|caption=Coliseo GDL}}
{{Gallery|name=WvsG.JPG|caption=Vs.[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]}}
 
{{Gallery|name=Ugc.jpg|caption=}}
{{Gallerywide|name=Hijo_del_santo_2_by_kimbal.jpg|caption=vs [[Hijo del Santo]]}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers|Ultimo Guerrero]]
[[Category:Current CMLL wrestlers|Ultimo Guerrero]]

Sugi San

2008-05-22T19:45:48Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Minicima.jpg
|name=Mini CIMA
|realName=Takuya Sugi
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Mini CIMA (debut-2004), Michinoku Ranger Gold, Shanao (M-Pro 2005), Yoshitsune, Little Dragon, El Blazer, AHII (AJPW 2007), HUSTLE Kamen Ranger Red (HUSTLE 2006), Catfish Man (Kensuke Office 2006-), THE*ZEST (Z-1MAX 2007), UWAI #32, Rabbit Boy (AJPW 2008), NOIZ (Z-1MAX 2008-)
|family=
|maestro=[[Ultimo Dragon]]
|birthdate=[[October 6]], [[1983]]
|debut=[[May 11]], [[2003]]
|lostmaskto=
|height=165cm
|weight=60kgs
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves= Springboard huracarrana, Shura
|titles= Michinoku Pro Tokohu Jr.
|}}
== Sources ==
[http://puroresucentral.com/yoshitsune.html Puroresu Central Profile]
[[Category:Foreign wrestlers]][[Category:Japanese wrestlers]]

Cyborg

2008-05-10T05:20:33Z

El Rudo:

{{bioFields|
|image=Cyborg-IWRGMiddle.jpg
|name=Cyborg
|realName=
|nicknames=
|nameHistory=Ráfaga Azul, Antifaz, Cyber Cop/Cyborg Cop, Cyborg
|family=
|maestro=
|birthdate=
|debut=
|lostmaskto=
|height=
|weight=
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=
|titles=[[IWRG Intercontinental Middleweight Championship]], [[IWRG Intercontinental Trios Championship]] [2] (w/ [[Maniac Cop]] & [[Vader Cop]] and [[Xibalva]] & [[Capitan Muerte|Kraneo]]), [[Distrito Federal Trios Championship]] (w/[[Oficial]], [[Guardia]])
|}}

 
== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|00/02/13|mask (1)|[[Guardia]], [[Oficial]] & [[Vigilante]]|Cyborg Cop, [[Maniac Cop]] & [[Vader Cop]]|Arena Naucalpan - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|00/04/23|hair|Cyborg|[[Rody]]|Arena Naucalpan - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|04/05/09|hair (2)|[[Sensei|Fantasy]]|Cyborg|Arena Naucalpan - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|05/01/09|hairs|Cyborg & [[Oficial]]|[[Comando Gama]] & [[Comando Mega]]|Arena Naucalpan - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aline|07/08/26|hair (3)|[[Veneno]]|Cyborg||Arena Naucalpan - Naucalpan, Mexico State}}
{{aend|(1) Captain's Fall Match - Guardia and Cyborg Cop were the captains; (2) Relevos Suicidas vs Zonik 2000/Cerebro Negro; due to his interference, Oficial also got his head shaved (3) relevos suicidas Black Terry y Cerebro Negro vs Cyborg y Veneno}}

[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]]
[[Category:Current IWRG wrestlers]]

Atlantis

2008-03-25T02:31:36Z

El Rudo:

{{Status}}
== Profile ==
{{bioFields|
|image=RUDISIMOCMLL2.JPG
|name=Atlantis
|nicknames=El Ídolo de los niños (The Idol of the Kids); El Príncipe de la Atlántida (The Prince of Atlantis), Atlantis Maldad (Atlantis Badness), El ídolo de los niños rudos (The Idol of the Roughs Kids), El ogro de los niños (The Ogre of the kids).
|nameHistory=Atlantis (debut -)
|family=[[Atlántico]] (brother)
|maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]]
|birthdate=[[September 28]], [[1962]] - [[Los Altos]], [[Jalisco]]
|debut=[[June 12]], [[1983]] - [[Pista Arena Revolución]] - [[Mexico City]]
|height=5'8"/173 cms
|weight=202 lbs/92 kg
|obituarydate=
|signatureMoves=[[La Atlántida]] (spinning torture rack variation), [[Scorpion Deathlock]], [[Top-Rope Neckbreaker]], [[Elbow Drop]]
|titles=[[NWA World Light Heavyweight Title]], [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] (3), [[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Ángel Azteca]]), [[National Trios Titles]] (w/ [[Octagón]] & [[Máscara Sagrada]]), [[CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title]] (2), [[CMLL World Tag Team Titles]] (4, w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Blue Panther]], w/ [[Ultimo Guerrero]]), [[CMLL World Trios Titles]] (3, w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & Lizmark, w/ Mr. Niebla & [[Black Warrior]], w/[[Ultimo Guerrero]] & [[Tarzan Boy]]), [[Michinoku Pro Tohoku Jr. Title]] (Campeonato de Asia), [[Grand Prix]] 2005, 7th Annual [[Leyenda de Plata]] Tournament,Fukumen World League II.
|}}

== Overview of Candidacy For The Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame ==

1. Was he ever regarded as the best draw in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best draw in his
country or his promotion?

No and no. He had periods where he was considered one of the top draws in
his promotion (more to this later), but in that period there was people like
[[Canek]], [[Konnan]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Cien Caras]], who were clearly ahead of him in terms of drawing.

2. Was he an international draw, national draw
and/or regional draw?

He is a national draw, and a regional draw. In fact, perhaps one of his
biggest strengths was his ability to draw in the most remote of places.
During years, his gimmick and nickname was that he was "the idol of the
kids", and this was actually true as his popularity was amazing. As I said,
he had an ability to easily fill out small to medium sized arenas (2,000 to
5,000, more or less) that could not afford bringing the top tier guys that
would rather work somewhere else where there was more money.

3. How many years did he have as a top draw?

I'd say he was a top draw from [[1988]] to [[1991]]. In [[1992]] [[AAA]] entered the game,
and he didn't jump ship. Other than that, he did have good drawing periods
building up to his mask vs. mask matches with [[Mano Negra]] (Oct 93) and
[[Villano III]] (selling out [[Arena Mexico]] - in the last five years the only
other times it has been sold out have been for [[Cien Caras]] vs. [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]] retirement vs. [[Universo 2000|Universo]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]]/[[Negro Casas|Casas]] vs. [[Scorpio Jr.|Scorpio]]/[[Bestia Salvaje]], [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo de Jalisco]] vs. [[Steel]], all of them hair or mask matches). After AAA, and not
counting those times, he has not really been a draw, but there is periods
where nobody in the promotion really has been.

Before that "drawing prime", he was many times on top of the cards and
headlined some of them which were sellouts. He is a guy that during
virtually all of his career, first based on work and charisma, and now on
reputation, has been on top of the cards and he's always been counted on to
headline "anniversary cards". His anniversary card record has all of the
following cards selling out except for [[1992]] (11,500, weak card w/ a poor,
thrown out, [[Dandy]] vs. [[Satanico]] hair vs. hair match in the semi that nobody
wanted to see - this match is not to be confused with their previous classic
bouts) and [[1999]] (15,000) but everybody knew neither Villano or Atlantis was
going to lose.

*[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]] - b. [[Talisman]], mask vs. mask
*[[1989|89]]/[[September 15|09/15]] - w/ [[Satanico]] b. [[MS-1]]/Tierra Viento y Fuego, hair/mask vs.
hair/mask
*[[1992|92]]/[[September 18|09/18]] - w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]] & [[King Haku]] b. [[Pierroth Jr.|Pierroth]], [[Fiera]], [[Gran Kabuki]]
*[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]] - b. [[Mano Negra]], mask vs. mask
*[[1999|99]]/[[September 24|09/24]] - w/ [[Villano III]] b. [[Shocker]]/[[Mr. Niebla]], losers fought mask vs. mask and Shocker lost.
*[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]] - b. [[Villano III]], mask vs. mask

When he was not headlining, he could be found several times in the semi-main
event of those cards (90, 97, 99). Other sellout drawing matches were his
mask winning matches vs. [[Kung Fu]], and [[Hombre Bala]].

One good conclusion would be saying that when put on big matches expected to
draw, he delivered, but in the Mexico City arenas, except for a relative
short period, he was not a week-in-week-out huge draw like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], [[Konnan]],
[[Vampiro]], [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo Jr.]], Misioneros, etc. who people paid to see no matter who
they faced. But to make up for it, he had the regional arena draw level.

4. Was he ever regarded as the best worker in the
world? Was he ever regarded as the best worker in
his country or in his promotion?

No to both. The first one is out of the question. Atlantis' best year
work wise was [[1989]], and even then there was several guys ahead of him: [[El Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[Javier Cruz]], [[Fuerza Guerrera]],
Satanico and that's only counting [[EMLL]] natives. If we add [[UWA]] and the indy
guys, we could come up with a few extra names.

The only period where I can really imagine a very strong argument for
Atlantis being the best worker in his promotion is 84 to 86. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] was not
as good and [[Dandy]] had not grown as much (by 87 I'd put both over Atlantis).
I'd put [[Satanico]] above him and maybe [[Lizmark]], though during those years
Atlantis was more inspired than [[Lizmark]] and I know some would put Atlantis
over [[Satanico]] as well. [[Fuerza Guerrera|Fuerza]] was not EMLL, but indy who worked for both [[UWA]]
and EMLL, so I am not counting him, or I'd put him above Atlantis too. Ditto
[[Negro Casas|Casas]] and [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] who also worked some [[Arena Mexico]] cards.

5. Was he ever the best worker in his class (sex or
weight)? Was he ever one of the top workers in his
class?

He's been a middleweight during the first half of his career and and a
borderline Light Heavyweight during the latter half. When he was very young,
he was a welterweight, but soon became a middleweight.

That being said, except for perhaps the period mentioned above, there's
always been better workers in his class like [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], [[El Dandy]]
when he became a middleweight (late 86/early 87), [[Negro Casas]] (in reality he
was a welterweight who also held several welterweight titles, but he
regularly faced the middleweight guys). That is only counting Mexico.

By 1991, while he was still very good, his work was already passed by
several other guys in the Middleweight ranks. When he was "officially" a
Light Heavyweight (early 93), there also was several better guys such as
[[L.A. Park|Parka]], [[Jerry Estrada]] or [[Lizmark]] who were having great matches in AAA.

6. How many years did he have as a top worker?

His debut date is universally listed as 1983 (though I heard once, but never
confirmed, that he had been under other name and mask at least two years
earlier, [[1981]]). In [[1983]], he already was very good. His work was clearly down
by [[1996]], though he had that last hurrah vs. [[Villano III]]. Nowadays he can
still have good matches, but only with top opposition.

7. Was he a good worker before his prime? Was he a
good worker after his prime?

As said before, his prime being [[1989]] would tell us the answer to both
questions is yes. Nowadays he is not bad by any means, but he is really
predictable and his matches are bland and by-the-numbers unless motivated by
his opponent or by the situation (i.e. title match or a big tournament). A
huge feud would do wonders for him. But reputation takes you a long way and
he still has got the rep, and it helps that he is very easy to work with.

8. Did he have a large body of excellent matches?
Did he have a excellent matches against a variety of opponents?

Yes. Excellent singles matches vs. [[Blue Panther]] (best lucha match of the 90s
that nobody ever seems to talk about), [[Villano III]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.]],
[[Jerry Estrada]], [[El Dandy]], [[Satanico]], just to name a few. Also, a wide variety
of trios matches were his performance was an important part in making the
match excellent.

9. Did he ever anchor his promotion(s)?

He was, with [[Lizmark]] and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo Jr.]], the main tecnico star of the promotion during the last years in the 80s through [[1990]]. By [[1991]] we had [[Octagon]]
getting over from lowcard attraction to main event superstar fast, [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]]
wrestling more at [[Arena Mexico]] as a tecnico, [[Konnan]], [[Anibal|Anibal's]] return to lose
his mask. By [[1992]], we also had [[Vampiro]] and [[Love Machine|Love Machine's]] push. In all
fairness, Atlantis was still there, sometimes main eventing, but he was far
from an anchor. He "took back" his spot when by May, everybody and their
mothers had left to [[AAA]]. When [[AAA]] started the main tecnicos for La Empresa
were Atlantis, [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]], [[Lizmark]] and [[Vampiro]]. And not too much after, Lizmark and [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.|Rayo]] left.

10. Was he effective when pushed at the top of
cards?

Yes. He played his roles well (more later), made a good champion when given
a belt AND booked to look like a fighting champion (you can not blame him for
[[CMLL]] not caring about some of their titles), and when given the chance he
rarely let anybody down by not being good or charismatic enough.

His hardest career test perhaps was starting it off with a nice push in the
market with the toughest fans, but he didn't let anybody down even then.

11. Was he valuable to his promotion before his
prime? Was he still valuable to his promotion after
his prime?

Yes and yes. Before his prime he was an amazing young worker who could be
used on top if needed and was a natural successor for [[Lizmark]]. He was given
the chance to headline several big shows, and through work and charisma he
was seen as a big star. Years later, [[Mogur]], who was a similar prospect
(though not as good in the ring) was given a similar push and he failed. And
also [[Angel Azteca]] was given a push as an Atlantis/[[Lizmark]] kind of guy, and
got over well enough, but was never seen on the level.

After his prime, he had several big and huge matches. Nowadays he's still
useful to the company as a "young legend" that can still go. He is still
used in main events, both trios and singles, and currently is 1/3 of the
[[CMLL]] Trios champions with [[Mr. Niebla]] and [[Black Warrior]].

12. Did he have an impact on a number of strong
promotional runs?

During the 80s, [[UWA]] was the number one promotion, and [[EMLL]] had good business
but not strong promotional runs.

In one of those funny things, I think by 1989 guys like Atlantis, [[Satanico]],
[[Dandy]], [[Pirata Morgan]] with their work, and others like [[Cien Caras]] and [[Rayo de
Jalisco Jr.]] with their mask match a year later, along with the decline of
novelty value in the [[UWA]] cards after [[Francisco Flores|Francisco Flores']] death, were key
pieces in making la Empresa the #1 promotion in Mexico again. But by 1991-92
with the TV boom caused by TV personalities like [[Konnan]], [[Octagon]], [[Vampiro]],
Brazos, etc., and legends like [[Perro Aguayo|Aguayo]], caused the guys that had been pulling
the wagon during the last few years (except for [[Cien Caras]]) to be pushed
back. Not to say it was a bad thing to do business wise, but I always think
Peña never really knew how to use either Atlantis or [[Satanico]].

13. Was he involved in a number of memorable
rivalries, feuds or storylines?

Yes. His rivalries with [[Mano Negra]] and [[Villano III]], even if it was just
because of the value of the fallen mask, would be talked about in 30 years.
Especially the [[Villano III]]. But they made them actually very interesting
feuds, with one of them ending in one of the few memorable matches of the
last five years, and the other one actually had a disappointing mask vs.
mask match but was a very good feud overall.

Him feuding with [[Kung Fu]] is considered memorable because of [[Kung Fu|Kung Fu's]]
nostalgia value to Toreo fans, but I hated it. I'm putting the blame 100%
here on [[Kung Fu]] as Atlantis did what he could. No way their matches could be
memorable.

The [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]]/Atlantis vs. [[Dandy]]/[[Satanico]] rivalry was not long lived because of Dandy turning, but it was a hardcore lucha libre fan dream and matches were
memorable. The Atlantis vs. [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]] feud was great, too, but not memorable
even though some of their matches were.

14. Was he effective working on the mic, working
storylines or working angles?

Mic work is almost irrelevant in Mexico (but he is not good at it - during
years he would endlessy stammer when in front of the mic, even though he
didn't have a stammer). Working storylines, I think he always was very
effective. Realistically, nobody with some vision of the business thought
he'd ever lose against [[Kung Fu]] or [[Mano Negra]] as both were past their prime
as workers (not that [[Kung Fu]] was ever great) and they were played out acts
with no drawing power left outside of a big mask match. But he played the
sympathetic babyface so well, that he made you doubt. Now, [[Villano III]] is
another subject. We (as in the English language lucha community) had been
hearing for months rumors about [[Villano III|Villano]] wanting to drop the mask, but the
feud was built so well that we were in the edge until the day of the match.
I can honestly say that even though I had Atlantis as the winner I was not
too confident of my choice because it was close to a 50/50 chance pick.

15. Did he play his role(s) effectively during his
career?

Yes. He was a good "hungry young tecnico who can hang around with the vets".
He played this role successfully during his early years by outworking
veterans with a good worker rep, and not getting smoked when he was put in
the same team than a [[Lizmark]] or a [[Mascara Año 2000]] level tecnico (don't
laugh, this guy used to be pure awesomeness).

As a champion, I guess he's a bit like Kobashi or Toyota, who makes a better
challenger than champion, but he had credibility during his most important
title reign (his third NWA Middleweight title) as he made a good fighting
champion that defeated top challengers like [[Fiera]], [[Blue Panther|Panther]], [[Emilio Charles Jr.|Charles]], [[Javier Cruz|Cruz]], [[Dandy]] or then up-and-coming young rudo [[Bestia Salvaje]].

His other major role, which has been played on-and-off since 1988, was of
the "top star who is the partner of hot young tecnico prospects". By teaming
with him, he helped get [[Angel Azteca]] enough credibility to look like a
threat to top workers like [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]]. Of course this also has got
to be credited to [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]] for making [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] look strong, and to
[[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] for being good to keep up, but Atlantis played his role well. He's
also had a somewhat similar role with [[Mr. Niebla]], and [[Octagon]] was put in
matches with him, [[El Hijo del Santo|Santo]] and others when [[Octagon]] was started to get
recognition as the "new hot prospect that is on the level of the stablished
stars". Also to his credit, Atlantis many times put his young partners over
in pre or post match interviews.

16. What titles and tournaments did he win? What was
the importance of the reigns?

National Middleweight Title: His first title. Can't say much on it, but he
had several very good matches.

NWA World Middleweight Title x 3. First two reigns was hot potato title
exchanges with [[Emilio Charles Jr.]], so little meaning, but the wrestling was
very good. He eventually took back the title in 1990 from [[Dandy]] in his last
reign, which is the one I already talked about.

National Tag Team Titles w/ [[Angel Azteca]]: This did more for [[Angel Azteca|Azteca]] than for
Atlantis. Very good tag matches vs. [[Dandy]] and [[Satanico]].

National Trios Titles w/ [[Octagon]] and [[Mascara Sagrada]]: Again, Atlantis & hot
prospects win titles to give credibility to the "new" guys.

CMLL World Light Heavyweight Title: First reign was more than a year and a
half long, but was not much. No strong title defenses that I can recall.
Second reign was a very good use of the title, as it was an extra to the
[[Villano III]] vs. Atlantis feud. [[Villano III]] took it back, but strong title
defenses all over (DF, Puebla, Cuernavaca) including V3 winning the title in
a show with a very good 5,500 crowd in Tampico.

CMLL World Tag Team Titles x2 w/ [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]], w/ [[Lizmark]]: Few title
defenses in each reign.

CMLL World Trios Titles x2 w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Lizmark]], w/ [[Mr. Niebla]] & [[Black Warrior]]: Ditto for the first reign. Second one is still going, but has not
amounted to much so far.

As for tournaments I can only recall the copa Victoria. Tournaments don't
mean much in Mexico unless it's the Leyenda de Plata. [[Rayo de Jalisco Jr.]]
loves to win lot of the small tournaments, so maybe Atlantis was in his team
for some.

17. Did he win many honors and awards?

WON Match Of The Year 2000 vs. [[Villano III]].

Back in the early 90s, the English speaking lucha community was the
subscriber list of Lucha Libre Weekly (Steve Sims' newsletter) and Viva la
Lucha (Kurt Brown's fanzine). The latter gave year end awards/polls from
89-94, while the other one usually had Steve's opinions only (IIRC). The
Mexican magazine awards are way more markish and political than the PWI
awards of the era, and they are hard to track down anyway, so I'm not
counting them.

VLL Babyface of the year: 1989, 90 and 93.
VLL Wrestler of the year: 1989
VLL Tope/Move of the year: 1990 (for his Quebrada)

18. Did he get mainstream exposure due to his
wrestling fame? Did he get a heavily featured by the
wrestling media?

No and no.

19. Was he a top tag team wrestler?

Not really, but tag team wrestling has not been really big in Mexico in the
last 16-17 years. Now we see a lot of it with the team of [[Ultimo Guerrero|Guerrero]] and
[[Rey Bucanero|Bucanero]], though, which is good, and El Toreo's golden years featured mostly
tag team matches on top, but Atlantis was a Coliseo/Mexico guy.

20. Was he innovative?

The Atlantida backbreaker seems to be his creation. Up to 1991, while not
innovative, his flying was state-of-the-art. In 1991 the new generation of
[[Volador]], [[Oro]], [[Misterioso]], etc. passed him in that aspect. And around that
time, he was smart enough to start dropping some of his crazy moves while
still young and healthy.

21. Was he influential?

He's not a [[Lizmark]]-like influential figure, though because of him being
popular, I guess many kids wanted to be like him. But I don't think that
makes you HOF worthy unless you are Santo and those kids were half a
country. :)

22. Did he make the people and workers around him
better?

Nowadays he just goes through the motions, but in the past he could look
good himself with a limited opponent, and he could make that opponent look
strong by selling and bumping well. During years, [[Pierroth Jr.]] and Atlantis
were the favorite rudo and tecnico (respectively) for the touring foreigners
because how easy was to work with them.

23. Did he do what was best for the promotion? Did
he show a commitment to wrestling?

He's considered the ultimate pro by his peers and the promoters, and he's
got dedication. He's a guy that rarely, if ever, no-shows without telling
the promoter in advance, and he's one of those guys that arrives to the
arena early. I have never heard any complaints about Atlantis' attitude.

Nowadays, he rarely loses cleanly, but he puts people over when needed and when he has got big mask vs. mask programs he puts his opponent over really strong. Of course he will end up taking the mask, but he does a good job of making it work. In fact, it's not too uncommon to see fans that are not all that knowledgeable about the worked side of the business, cite how Atlantis took the masks of [[Villano III|Villano]] and [[Mano Negra]] "with fluke wins" and "being an inferior wrestler" (in [[Villano III|Villano's]] case one can understand, but no way with [[Mano Negra]]).

24. Is there any reason to believe that he was
better or worse than he appeared?

He's always been really protected by [[Paco Alonso]], probably due to loyalty. During his prime years, as good as he was, he was always facing the top rudo workers in the promotion so he looked even better. But to be fair, those rudos also looked better and stronger when facing Atlantis too, so it was more of a mutual help deal.

== Notes ==

After being a career tecnico, Atlantis was changed to a rudo in [[2005]]. It did not appear to be his idea or even the promotion's idea, but the fans forcing a change. [[CMLL]] had been building up Atlantis, including weekly ''Seccion Azul'' features trumpeting his work with kids or focusing an award being given to Atlantis, to push him as the ultimate good guy. The build was the setup for a [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Atlantis]] mask match, the culmination of a long rivalry.

Unexpectedly to the promotion, once the fans realized the long teased mask match would actually happen, they turned on Atlantis and threw their support vocally behind Dr. Wagner Jr. Wagner had turned tecnico in 2004 when the crowds adopted him as a new hero following the death of his [[Dr. Wagner|father]]. The Doc was riding the wave of new tecnico support at the time, while Atlantis was the same unchanged man he'd been for years and had slowed down as a worker.

Some of the anti-Atlantis anger has also been attribuited to [[Arean Mexico]] fans becoming more rebellious and more pro-rudo. The rudo [[Perros del Mal]] faction became popular at the same time by pushing those buttons, and Atlantis was the polar opposite.

While Atlantis was booed, Dr. Wagner grew stronger as a tecnico and a ticket seller. Even more than the fan reaction, the increased value of [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] (and his mask) caused the planned mask match not to happen. Wagner may have agreed to drop his mask to Atlantis at a certain price, but by the time it came to sign the contracts, the price Wagner now wanted to lose his mask was more than CMLL was willing to pay (so much that [[CMLL]] couldn't pay him and hope to make a profit on the show in an arena the size of [[Arena Mexico]].) The mask match, despite having been verbally agreed to by both parties in front of the crowd at the end of an Arena Mexico, was quietly discarded.

This left Atlantis in limbo; he was still being booed, and he was going to get the payoff. With no mask match, Atlantis and CMLL gave into the boos. They acknowledged the boos, and had Atlantis react angrily to them. The anger turned into jealously directed at fellow tecnico [[Mistico]], and Atlantis turned on him. The feud progressed thru the fall of 2005, with [[El Hijo del Santo]] helping out Mistico, and Atlantis allying himself with [[Ultimo Guerrero]]. Atlantis became a full rudo, and a member of Ultimo's [[Guerreros del Infiernio]], renamed [[Guerreros del Atlántida]] in honor of their new member. (His entrance into the group would eventually lead to [[Rey Bucanero]]'s departure.)

The rudo turn, and the sequence of events leading up to it, seemed to reawaken Atlantis. He changed his look, replacing the white with black, and often substituting his trademark tecnico blue for red or other colors. In the ring, and after he went completely rudo, he seemed to relish the opportunity to use every dirty trick that was ever used against him. As a rudo, Atlantis has an over the top, bordering on cartoon-ishly evil personality, like a mix of a crazy old man and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snidely_Whiplash Snidley Whiplash].

Despite being a rudo, he still considers himself the idol of the kids, and he still has many fans among them.

In lead up to the aborted mask match, Atlantis won the [[NWA LH|NWA Light Heavyweight Championship]] from Dr. Wagner, and the title has been as visible as titles get in CMLL (though he doesn't always wear it to the ring.) He's virtual co-leader of GdI and still in a high profile position within the promotion.

== Notable Matches ==

{{SimpleMatchStart}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 1|08/01]]/[[1991|91]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Los Hermanos Dinamita]] ([[Cien Caras]]/[[Mascara Ano Dos Mil]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]]) defeated '''Atlantis'''/[[Mascara Sagrada]]/[[Octagon]] to win the [[Mexican National Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 7|06/07]]/[[1996|96]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Bestia Salvaje]] & [[Chicago Express]] beat [[Atlantico]] & '''Atlantis''' to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[September 24|09/24]]/[[1999|99]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Mr. Niebla]] beat [[Shocker]] to take his mask after a [[Parejas Increibles Suicidas]] match against '''Atlantis''' & [[Villano III]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[February 11|02/11]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Villano III]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMask|[[March 17|03/17]]/[[2000|00]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Villano III]] to take his mask.}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[December 20|12/20]]/[[2001|01]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Tarzan Boy]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[NWA Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[June 16|06/16]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] beat Fusion Lagunera ([[Blue Panther]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Fuerza Guerrera]]) to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Puebla]]|[[Shocker]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[CMLL Lt. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 25|07/25]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Neza]]|[[Blue Panther]] defeated '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[August 22|08/22]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca]]|[[Rey Bucanero]] & [[Ultimo Guerrero]] beat '''Atlantis''' & [[LA Park|La Parka]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[October 29|10/29]]/[[2002|02]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|[[Blue Panther]] beat '''Atlantis''' to retain his [[WWA Middleweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[March 21|03/21]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|[[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]]/[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]]/[[Universo Dos Mil]] beat '''Atlantis'''/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Mr. Niebla]] to win the [[CMLL Trios Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[November 16|11/16]]/[[2003|03]]|[[Arena Coliseo de Guadalajara]]|'''Atlantis''' defeated [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]]}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 11|01/11]]/[[2004|04]]|[[Arena Coliseo]]|'''Atlantis''' beat [[Black Tiger III|Black Tiger]] to retain his [[Tohoku Jr. Heavyweight Title]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[January 21|01/21]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[Blue Panther]] beat [[Olimpico]] & [[Rey Bucanero]] to retain their [[CMLL Tag Titles]].}}
{{SimpleMatch|[[July 1|07/01]]/[[2005|05]]|[[Arena Mexico]]|'''Atlantis''' & [[La Mascara]] defeated [[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] & [[Misterioso II]] to win the [[Gran Alternativa]].}}
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== Luchas de apuestas record ==
{{astart}}
{{aline|[[1984|84]]/[[September 21|09/21]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Talismán]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1986|86]]/[[December 5|12/05]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Hombre Bala]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1989|89]]/[[September 22|09/22]]|mask/hair|Atlantis & [[Satánico]]|[[Tierra Viento y Fuego]] & [[MS-1]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Kung Fu]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1990|90]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|masks|[[Lizmark]] & Atlantis|The Animals I & II ([[Eddie Watts]] and [[Chuck Walton]])|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1993|93]]/[[October 1|10/01]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Mano Negra]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[March 22|03/22]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Rey Pirata]]|[[Domo de la Feria]] - [[León]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[1999|99]]/[[July 19|07/19]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Gran Markus Jr.]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[March 17|03/17]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Villano III]]|[[Arena México]] - [[Mexico City]]}}
{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[Silver Fox]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 13|08/13]]|mask (1)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria]] - [[Nuevo Laredo]], [[Tamps.]]}}
{{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[August 15|08/15]]|mask (2)|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Boricua]] (Herodes)|[[Arena Celaya]] - [[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}}
{{aline|[[2003|03]]/??/??|mask|[[Atlantis]]|[[El Hijo de Gran Markus (fake?)]]|unknown - maybe [[Guadalajara]]}}
{{aline|[[2004|04]]/[[October 23|10/23]]|hair|[[Atlantis]]|[[Fidel Sierra]] (El Boricua)|[[Woodburn High School]] - [[Woodburn]], [[OR]], [[USA]]}}
{{aend|(1) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg(fake name); (2) Unmasked as Big Von Hamemberg (fake name)}}

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